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  1. #11
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    Rbstr's Avatar
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    Robin Ster
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    The more unisex armor look is one of the good parts of the XIV aesthetic IMO.

    ....but I'll admit I don't really like the Lorica's looks on the smaller/female characters. Oh well, there's other stuff to wear.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbstr View Post
    The more unisex armor look is one of the good parts of the XIV aesthetic IMO.

    ....but I'll admit I don't really like the Lorica's looks on the smaller/female characters. Oh well, there's other stuff to wear.
    I don't even like the way it looks on my male Miqo'te. It's way too bulky. :/
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    Shima Kyaro
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    The Noct Lorica is honestly one of my favorite plate armors in the game because it's truly gender neutral. Six packs on girls are completely fine, and every piece of armor doesn't need to be shapely and curvy and boobified. This, along with pieces such as the Paladin AF/Myth chest and the trashcan chests are the kind of armors I glamour to when I want to look like a big, threatening tank that's here to get things done. Well, as threatening as a cat girl can be.

    That said, I'm not against options. I'm not saying other armors should be changed to be less feminine, nor do I think all armor should be like the Noct Lorica going forward either. But I don't think they should ever get away from this style of armor completely or change what's already been made.

    Edit: Due to a comment further in the thread, I'd like to clarify that I use gender neutral in this instance to mean that the armor doesn't change regardless of which gender it's equipped on, rather than to mean that it invokes no qualities specific to either gender.
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    Last edited by Tsunenori; 08-20-2014 at 09:50 PM.

  4. #14
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    The chest shape is fine. The size isn't. The lorica looks to be 5 sizes too large for a female midlander.
    Noct Lorica looks about the same porportionwise on any race and sex. You want your armor to hug your body? Have fun when your ribs shatter. The Lorica actually has a heavy, black, likely woolen, gambison beneath it and the pauldrons (shoulder covers) are oversized to overlap the main breastplate sections. Heaven forbid we have a set of armor in the game that looks practical.
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  5. #15
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    Well my character identifies as a male so I would think it insensitive of Square Enix to change it.
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  6. #16
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Noct Lorica looks about the same porportionwise on any race and sex. You want your armor to hug your body? Have fun when your ribs shatter. The Lorica actually has a heavy, black, likely woolen, gambison beneath it and the pauldrons (shoulder covers) are oversized to overlap the main breastplate sections. Heaven forbid we have a set of armor in the game that looks practical.
    Uh, it doesn't look practical, it looks ridiculous. On anything other than male Roe and large male Highlander Hyur, it looks like you could fit an entire family of lala underneath it and still have enough room for their furniture. Armor is made to be worn much closer to the body than that, because it needs to be un-bulky. You wear a padded gambeson and maybe a thin layer of chain below it, but otherwise it's right up against your body. Yeah, you might have some cracked ribs, but that's better than being cut in half.

    Remember, armor is there to protect you if you get hit, but the idea is still to not get hit at all. Video games (and RPGs in particular) have completely robbed people of the concept of actual melee combat, where getting hit is BAD even if you're fully armored, and that the entire point of your martial training is to teach you how to avoid being hit at all costs while landing effective hits upon your opponent. Even when you're fully armored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    People would complain it's too FFXI or FFXIV 1.x or (Insert MMO.."This is FFXIV not x!") All in all, people voted: "We want more gear and faster updates" so they went with a more universal approach with gear design and rigging.
    Honestly I think the forum hostility towards FFXI or 1.0 is not completely because they are/were bad, but because some people can't spend a single day without naming them or comparing them, one single day.

    Now OT, I disagree about that universal approach, many items have at least a slight difference between female and male, even newer items like ST drops or the new vanity items, I can't think of any good reason why they went that way with Noct Lorica.
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  8. #18
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    Personally, I am of the mind that plate angled to deflect blows is actually aesthetically AND practically superior to boob plate any day of the week.
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
    Personally, I am of the mind that plate angled to deflect blows is actually aesthetically AND practically superior to boob plate any day of the week.
    Yes. YESSSSS.

    The armor design in the third link there is one of the first things I noticed in FFXIV that really struck me as appreciable. I'm sporting stuff like that on my busty highlander paladin alt, and "plain" as it is, it's one of the better equipment templates this game uses, and the way it curves is still flattering enough. Still, if I REALLY want to show off, I can switch to Monk with the full-cleavage pirate shirt, thank you very much. :P

    And in regards to the other two links, not enough games take inspiration from Dark Souls armor. Not nearly enough. Would love to have some gear in FFXIV resemble that iconic Elite Knight garb, or go for something really distinctive and evocative, yet extremely feasible, like the equipment worn by the character Lautrec.
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    Daiza Auvec
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    I could just be weird, but the size anfpd the aforementioned six pack doesn't make the armor look gender neutral, but manish. I would consider something like darklight neutral because it don't look like a man or a woman.

    But as stated I could be weird.
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