Bye bye Materia in dungeons and hello to farm crystals.

[Tchoc]

Nope. I can't do it.

I cannot bring myself to have any sympathy for the people who were abusing the system to profit from SBing, and make no mistake: if you were dropping below item level in a dungeon, you were abusing the system. I don't care if you think it didn't hurt much, you were cheating. I don't care if the materia economy falls to pieces if it was built on such a shitty foundation.

For those who were spirit-bonding level appropriate, class appropriate stuff in dungeons this doesn't really affect you at all.

[Appleh4x]

Nope. I can't do it.

I cannot bring myself to have any sympathy for the people who were abusing the system to profit from SBing, and make no mistake: if you were dropping below item level in a dungeon, you were abusing the system. I don't care if you think it didn't hurt much, you were cheating. I don't care if the materia economy falls to pieces if it was built on such a shitty foundation.

For those who were spirit-bonding level appropriate, class appropriate stuff in dungeons this doesn't really affect you at all.

You realize that being full i110 left side with i48-49 HQ accs will put you 30 ilvl above these dungeons, right? This affects the people who SB responsibly.

[ValkyrieL]

I'll say dungeon SB's account for about 10% of the materia market. so that change probably won't affect market significantly.
"Open-World Encounter" is another different story. I only used lvl 50 sets to SB's on Urth's but I believe u could still SB lvl 1-16 for T1, 20-3x for T2 materia. if is no longer possible to SB for T2 specially than expect materia T2 to cost about 4x as much now.
it already cost 2x/3x more than T3.

[Tchoc]

I'm sorry you'll have to take ten minutes in the open world to bind 48-49 accessories now, then. Not really all that sorry because SBing out there with SB+ gear (which would ALWAYS be a lost slot in dungeons) was always faster than doing dungeons without those accessories.

[TravelerX1]

We do alot of SB'ing in our FC, not for money but to support the materia needs of hard core crafters and gathers. Mainly we do it open world on the notorious SB'ing mobs. I actually welcome these changes, it should make SB'ing Tier 1 & 2s faster by just farming lower level (and faster spawning) mobs.

Adjust, Adapt, Dominate!

[Nukocafe]

I'm all for the changes for spiritbonding in dungeons but I'm pretty upset about open world.
I used to spirit bond when solo playing with my chocobo doing beastman dailies but now I'm pretty much only able to spiritbond i45~49 stuff because the i40 and below stuff won't get any spiritbind from those. I really don't understand why open world spiritbonding was nerfed, if you're solo spiritbonding it's not hurting anyone. (´・ω・`)

[hyperhelios]

Never knew this many people were affected by this. I just SB i55 gear while burning leves trying to get the 3 500 leve GC achievements; also includes an added bonus of having an excuse to check the tradecraft npc by Saint Coinach's for the 3 dodore wings reward (75k total). Oh well, if you're on Sargatanas be sure to buy all the i70 accessories Fluffie and Fluffgirl are selling to support Mog God, thanks.

[Vaer]

We do alot of SB'ing in our FC, not for money but to support the materia needs of hard core crafters and gathers. Mainly we do it open world on the notorious SB'ing mobs. I actually welcome these changes, it should make SB'ing Tier 1 & 2s faster by just farming lower level (and faster spawning) mobs.

Adjust, Adapt, Dominate!

inb4 lvl50s keep killing my quest mobs do something SE

[Squa11_Leonhart]

most of those notorious mobs were level 50....

[ColeSlawter]

I'm not reading this whole thread but the posts I have read appear to miss an important point in the update notes:

The rate at which gear gains spiritbond will now be reduced when gear is not the appropriate level for a given duty or open-world encounter. Furthermore, if the item level of gear is too high or too low, it will no longer gain spiritbond.

Open-world encounter....

This suggests to me that you also cannot go to urths or whatever other popular SB points are with anything other than 45-50?

I understand both sides in the in-dungeon SBing but if open world is impacted that is absolutely ridiculous and WILL impact the MB. Glad I have over 400 materia and my novus almost done :P

cha-ching!