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  1. #911
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    This is the same thing worded differently. To hell with whatever Yandere is saying.
    Actually, it's not. His has nothing to do with whether or not the bolt has hit (and the bolt hitting is NOT what triggers it showing a firestarter proc, as proven by the fact that we don't get them instantly when we're at point blank range).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    " It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move."

    Which is the purpose of fireweaving over simply waiting (not casting anything) to ensure you don't have a firestarter proc.
    When you actually learn to read, feel free to come back to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    Actually, it's not. His has nothing to do with whether or not the bolt has hit (and the bolt hitting is NOT what triggers it showing a firestarter proc, as proven by the fact that we don't get them instantly when we're at point blank range).
    The bolt is just a way to frame the time in a easy to understand way.

    When you weave, you will see the +FS at the beginning of your 0.5s wait.
    When you wait, you will see the +FS at the end of your ~0.5s wait.

    Which can you react to quicker?

    Also the bolt has the same travel time at any distance.
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    Last edited by SeraviEdalborez; 08-18-2014 at 03:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    Actually, it's not. His has nothing to do with whether or not the bolt has hit (and the bolt hitting is NOT what triggers it showing a firestarter proc, as proven by the fact that we don't get them instantly when we're at point blank range).
    All spells take the same time to hit no matter what range you're at, and the bolt hitting is what triggers Firestarter.

    Edit: This weaving concept is a bit similar to how many other skills will have their effects applied instantly(at least visually) when you use another skill immediately after it. When you use a Firestarter proc immediately after casting Fire 1, your Fire essentially hits immediately along with Firestarter. Weaving just expands this idea and tries to weave in other off-GCDs in an attempt to get Firestarter procs to show up faster, react to those procs, and munch less of them as a result. I, personally, would not go through all that trouble for something that would likely be a minor DPS increase.
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    Last edited by Adamantium; 08-18-2014 at 10:47 AM.

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    I had more fun reading the "nub tips" than reading the actual chart. As for #3, I defiantly try to do this as much as possible however, no one has yet dropped any pants due to my superior nuking skills. Also I'm looking for gear that will make my character look good for glamour. Any suggestions good sir?


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  6. #916
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    When you actually learn to read, feel free to come back to this thread.
    How about when -you- learn to read? I seem to be reading quite a bit better than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    When you weave, you will see the +FS at the beginning of your 0.5s wait.
    When you wait, you will see the +FS at the end of your ~0.5s wait.

    Which can you react to quicker?
    Except, you're wrong. The FS proc appears at the end of .5s either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    All spells take the same time to hit no matter what range you're at, and the bolt hitting is what triggers Firestarter.
    Wrong on both accounts. Also wrong on your edit, as firestarter does not appear any faster by activating an OGCD ability.
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    Since people seem confused...

    Quote Originally Posted by PuroStrider View Post
    So, we can definitely say that Firestarter proc registers exactly 0.5 second after Fire has finished casting. Fire weaving allows us to fill that 0.5 gap perfectly.
    As I've already said, "The whole point of fireweaving is to give you a solid time reference rather than having to base it on your own internal clock."
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    Last edited by YanderePrincess; 08-19-2014 at 02:42 AM.
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    You seem very confused about fireweaving and game mechanics in general. It is amusing.
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