SMN BIS 2.3

[Dwill]

Is that really better than this? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NK8W I understand that you're only sacrificing 4 int for an amount of crit and det that more than makes up for it. But you're also losing 50 spell speed... which isn't particularly great for SMN, but I thought it still had some weight?

While Spell Speed has some weights, it is terribly low (~15 Spell Speed = 1 Int). So you gain 7 Int (with Spell Speed converted) and 11 CRT but you lose 61 DET in the process. Not worth it.

[RinchanNau]

While Spell Speed has some weights, it is terribly low (~15 Spell Speed = 1 Int). So you gain 7 Int (with Spell Speed converted) and 11 CRT but you lose 61 DET in the process. Not worth it.

Interesting. I don't yet have the HA mask OR HA ring, but if your BiS list is correct I don't need the HA ring. And I do have the mog neck and ramuh ring.. Would have the get that soldiery bracelet after I finally get my soldiery chest too. Now I want to test it out.

Edit: my list did not include food. So the difference isn't as large as you mentioned. Seems much closer with black truffle factored in.

[Dwill]

Interesting. I don't yet have the HA mask OR HA ring, but if your BiS list is correct I don't need the HA ring. And I do have the mog neck and ramuh ring.. Would have the get that soldiery bracelet after I finally get my soldiery chest too. Now I want to test it out.

Edit: my list did not include food. So the difference isn't as large as you mentioned. Seems much closer with black truffle factored in.

It would be closer indeed as the difference would be ~1% if not less.

[RinchanNau]

It would be closer indeed as the difference would be ~1% if not less.

yea. I used stat weights I found earlier in the thread... no idea if accurate. And the difference was less than .5 int. Would be interesting to see the actual results in a series of dummy tests. I don't have the gear to match both of these sets at current. But perhaps I can come up with a few similar sets.

[Dwill]

yea. I used stat weights I found earlier in the thread... no idea if accurate. And the difference was less than .5 int. Would be interesting to see the actual results in a series of dummy tests. I don't have the gear to match both of these sets at current. But perhaps I can come up with a few similar sets.

Stats weight for summoners are approximately, (These are from personal testing so they might be slightly different for other people):

WD: ~6.57
DET: ~0.28
CRT: ~0.25
SS: ~0.06

[Havenchild]

Stats weight for summoners are approximately, (These are from personal testing so they might be slightly different for other people):

WD: ~6.57
DET: ~0.28
CRT: ~0.25
SS: ~0.06

I think the SS is slightly higher .07 - .075 but I agree with the Crit increase being higher then what ariyala says.