Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[Miste]

but let's be honest here...these people just want to be vindictive. Most likely they were the target of a trade toll and just want to lash back. Why sink to that level? Anyone besides the trolls are bigger then the trolls (in more ways than one) and thus they are not worth anyone's time or attention.

I was never a target of a trade troll, but I still believe that if people do it more than once a GM should be called and punishment be enacted. Why people want to promote that stupid actions should have no consequences is beyond me.

Now, I do not believe they have to be perma banned or anything (unless they keep repeating the offense a lot), but why would you want people to get away with trolling people to such a degree that they cannot play properly or at all? Seems ridiculous. If someone keeps trading you, that can effectively make you unable to play the game. You'd have to log out and wait for them to leave, you really think this should not be punished? It baffles me.

[Darki]

I was never a target of a trade troll, but I still believe that if people do it more than once a GM should be called and punishment be enacted. Why people want to promote that stupid actions should have no consequences is beyond me.

Now, I do not believe they have to be perma banned or anything (unless they keep repeating the offense a lot), but why would you want people to get away with trolling people to such a degree that they cannot play properly or at all? Seems ridiculous. If someone keeps trading you, that can effectively make you unable to play the game. You'd have to log out and wait for them to leave, you really think this should not be punished? It baffles me.

I believe you when you say that you were never trade trolled. To answer your question, it is because trade trolls are bellow you and everyone else who isn't a troll. They are simply not worth your attention, time or energy. Let's say that you were in fact trade trolled. They have already effected your gameplay and maybe even irked you a little. Now you want to give them more of your time energy and attention by filling out a GM report and then wait and wait for a response from said GM? ...Why? Your gameplay is far less effected if you just calmly put up /busy (preferably beforehand) and go back to enjoying the game. Don't give trolls a victory by letting them inside your head rent free.

If it makes you feel better, try thinking of the "busy" symbol by your name as a big middle finger to the trolls.

[Miste]

I believe you when you say that you were never trade trolled. To answer your question, it is because trade trolls are bellow you and everyone else who isn't a troll. They are simply not worth your attention, time or energy. Let's say that you were in fact trade trolled. They have already effected your gameplay and maybe even irked you a little. Now you want to give them more fill out a GM report and then wait and wait for a response from said GM? ...Why? Your gameplay is far less effected if you just calmly put up /busy (preferably beforehand) and go back to enjoying the game. Don't give trolls a victory by letting them inside your head rent free.

If it makes you feel better, try thinking of the "busy" symbol by your name as a big middle finger to the trolls.

I understand your point that it is below us, but like others said, putting yourself on busy makes you unable to communicate with certain friends. Basically what you are saying is everyone should just run around with /busy on and play like this is a single player game...when it is a MMO. So to some people putting up /busy will not make it so you can go back to enjoying the game...since you know some people have friends that they like to talk to.

Also I am unsure about what you mean about "waiting" for a response from a GM...you do not have to just sit there and wait you can do whatever you want. GM's can even send /tells to you while you are in an instance.

So instead of making everyone run around with /busy on all the time, maybe it is better to promote that this behaviour is not acceptable, cause it's not lol

[Darki]

I understand your point that it is below us, but like others said, putting yourself on busy makes you unable to communicate with certain friends. Basically what you are saying is everyone should just run around with /busy on and play like this is a single player game...when it is a MMO. So to some people putting up /busy will not make it so you can go back to enjoying the game...since you know some people have friends that they like to talk to.

Also I am unsure about what you mean about "waiting" for a response from a GM...you do not have to just sit there and wait you can do whatever you want. GM's can even send /tells to you while you are in an instance.

So instead of making everyone run around with /busy on all the time, maybe it is better to promote that this behaviour is not acceptable, cause it's not lol

Not all the time. Just during sensitive times like gathering and map farming for example. No point in having up during times that trolls can't get to you.

In my experience, GMs take a good while to respond. If they are faster with you then I guess you lucked out.

[Mogi]

So Darki what your saying is work around the trolls time? hide from them and let them do what they want yea if this world was like that i guess hackers and ppl who rob others never be in jail the fact is GMs are the cops of our lil world and we need to report ppl doing bad things as this is the only way the game will grow. I'm not saying the kids or trolls need a ban forever but a few days to a week may clean stuff up

[Darki]

So Darki what your saying is work around the trolls time? hide from them and let them do what they want yea if this world was like that i guess hackers and ppl who rob others never be in jail the fact is GMs are the cops of our lil world and we need to report ppl doing bad things as this is the only way the game will grow. I'm not saying the kids or trolls need a ban forever but a few days to a week may clean stuff up

Authorities (GMs) are for when preventive measures have failed. If you didn't even make the attempt to take preventive measures then sorry it's partly your fault. Like they say in the Boy's and Girl's Scouts: "Be Prepared."

Guard yourself so you don't have to run to the GMs so much. The game developers have even given us many tools to keep trolls out of our gameplay. The vote kick, blacklist, /busy and coming soon to patch 2.35: the ability to kick trolls out of the FC regardless if they have a private room or not, and updated mechanics to Hunts and Frontline. These are all great tools that work well when people actually use them.

But you want to ignore the fact that these tools exist and run to the GM every time someone disturbs your gameplay? I think you want to be trade trolled so you have an excuse to play victim. There is no other explanation.
Support prevention. Not retaliation.

Oh and your getting robed analogy? Let me paint you a picture:

Police: "So Ms. Bank Manager, you say you were robed?"
Mannager: "Yes and I want the robber caught this instant!"
Police: "Ok lets look at the safe so we can check for clues"
Manager "A safe? We don't have one. We trusted people to only take what is in their accounts."
Police "...um...ok what about security camera footage?"
Manager: "We don't have a camera system ether"
Police: "You mean to tell me you didn't take any preventive measures to safeguard the money?"
Manager: "Hey! Don't lecture me on how to run my bank! It is your job to catch this hooligan!"
Police: "Ma'am, we will put out an A.P.B on the thief but you should at least attempt to guard your client's money so that it wouldn't be taken by someone with just their bare hands."

[Waeksyn]

But you want to ignore the fact that these tools exist and run to the GM every time someone disturbs your gameplay? I think you want to be trade trolled so you have an excuse to play victim. There is no other explanation."

Thank you for illustrating my point. Let's all blame the victim!

[Mogi]

I think you want to be trade trolled so you have an excuse to play victim. There is no other explanation.
Support prevention. Not retaliation.

Lol So i want to be a victim because i feel trolls need to be dealt with accordingly? i'm starting to think your trolling now :P