Primal mounts and their effect on player health/sanity.

[Tonka]

And it is a slap in the face

This isn't my first MMO. There was a time when I devoted many hours for many years to a game. Those days are behind me now, but I just always enjoyed those few crazy items in the game that you had to be mad lucky to get. Seeing someone stroll by with a super rare bit of bling was fun. I even managed to get my own a couple of times, and it was fantastic.

Yes, SE said the mounts can be an incentive to run it again. They didn't say that it is something they think everyone deserves for running the dungeon. More like, "oh well, I'll help. And maybe I'll get that mount if I'm lucky." They never specifically said they think people should run it with the express purpose of earning the mount.

[Kota_Foxfrey]

So because he doesn't have a Level 50 character in this game, yet, he isn't allowed to have an opinion on this?

I only said that without a lv50 you can't even enter a ex primal fight and therefor might not understand the issue completely.

Yes, SE said the mounts can be an incentive to run it again. They didn't say that it is something they think everyone deserves for running the dungeon.

These mounts are intended to be rare items for players who have already cleared the extreme primal battles, to incentivize players to continue and challenge these fights. At this time there are no plans to make any adjustments to the primal mounts, but if anything changes we will be sure to update you.

Giving everyone a mount in party at a 1% chance or making an achievement for X amount of times to get a mount while leaving chance of a drop as it is now would be far better incentive as many players have agreed.

[Tonka]

I don't think I need a 50 in this particular game to understand this issue.

Look, I'm completely fine with the things proposed. If people believe it'll make them happy for the mount to not be so rare then that's what I want. A nice happy community to play with. I just don't think it's that important for everyone to have every vanity item available and I prefer for some things to just stay super rare, so long as they are vanity. I'm not saying I'm right and anyone else is wrong, that's just my preference and it seemed like this was a suitable place to discuss my take on it. I do apologize.

EDIT: New forum post cannot be made due to either you have reached to your daily limit or your main character's level is not high enough.

I guess Kota is right. I'm not high enough level to discuss this. Thanks for letting me chat with you guys today!

[TeaTimeBear]

I don't think I need a 50 in this particular game to understand this issue.

Look, I'm completely fine with the things proposed. If people believe it'll make them happy for the mount to not be so rare then that's what I want. A nice happy community to play with. I just don't think it's that important for everyone to have every vanity item available and I prefer for some things to just stay super rare, so long as they are vanity. I'm not saying I'm right and anyone else is wrong, that's just my preference and it seemed like this was a suitable place to discuss my take on it. I do apologize.

Why do you think the mounts won't be rare if the method for acquiring it is eased?

[Artaru]

If you make them easier to obtain, the rarity of the mounts will go down...

[TeaTimeBear]

If you make them easier to obtain, the rarity of the mounts will go down...

How? No one ever wants to do primals. A %2 drop rate increase won't cause people to farm. Nor will everyone getting it with 1% via equal distribution.

The big incentive for people is ilvl increase not vanity. If there is no power to be had/appropriate ilvl increase then theres no reason for the majority to do it. Don't believe me? Look a ramuh, some of the bis rings drop from that grandpa and people won't run it. Why? Low ilvl.

On my server majority choose to get their novus not do primals for the pony, they also do hunts to max their sold gear and coil. The only people doing primals are the minority which a small percentage, even few of those people can do Ramuh. And you all think an ease will change this??? Preposterous, maybe on a server like Balmung where Rp thrives but not across the board I kid you not.

[skaterger]

Why do you think the mounts won't be rare if the method for acquiring it is eased?

How? No one ever wants to do primals.

If you're asking for the change, then obviously you will do it if it becomes easier. What makes you think others won't have the same thinking as you?

The bottom line is this. The mounts aren't meant to be farmed. Personally I never go into primals expecting anything other than the standard loot fare to drop. If a barb/mount/mirror/whatever drops, I thank my lucky stars and hope the rng gods shine. Up to today, I've not seen a single mount/mirror. I got the levi barb though. If you go in expecting to get anything short of hundreds of runs, you're going to be disappointed.

[TeaTimeBear]

If you're asking for the change, then obviously you will do it if it becomes easier. What makes you think others won't have the same thinking as you?

The bottom line is this. The mounts aren't meant to be farmed. Personally I never go into primals expecting anything other than the standard loot fare to drop. If a barb/mount/mirror/whatever drops, I thank my lucky stars and hope the rng gods shine. Up to today, I've not seen a single mount/mirror. I got the levi barb though. If you go in expecting to get anything short of hundreds of runs, you're going to be disappointed.

If they're not meant to be farmed then why goad us into collecting all of them to see that special something that occurs once you do? And you assume much of me what you've written is not my outlook, I'm merely playing devils advocate you know what my real outlook is? Doing them for the fun of it all. I don't disregard people who feel this way though. Yoshi wants people to try and get them all to see what happens when you do.

[skaterger]

If they're not meant to be farmed then why goad is into collecting all of them to see that special something that occurs once you do? And you assume much of me what you've written is not my outlook, I'm merely playing devils advocate you know what my real outlook is? Doing them for the fun of it all. I don't disregard people who feel this way though. Yoshi wants people to try and get them all to see what happens when you do.

Hmm obviously I'm not a mind reader so I'm going to take what you say at face value. Well I'm glad you are taking a more neutral stance. Honestly, I don't feel strongly about this like I do other issues. I am just a little perturbed when the OP uses words like health and sanity when describing items in a video game. That was my point about not farming for the items. If you go in with less expectation, then play for the fun of it and worry less about what drops.

[Kota_Foxfrey]

That was my point about not farming for the items. If you go in with less expectation, then play for the fun of it and worry less about what drops.

Not everyone enjoys playing the game that way and most people that do aren't going to do these in pugs or DF over and over which is what SE wants to encourage. Aka "incentives" but almost no ones want to do these with such bad odds as of right now. Reason why they need to change it.