So It's against the rules to need for another job?....

[ispano]

If you need it, for any reason, then you should need on it. That is why they have need or greed in my opinion. I need for desynthesis and seals all the time. I am only doing runs nowadays for those reasons. If I fill a needed role so people can complete a duty they need, wtf should I greed on something I am doing the run for? Other people are there to level or get tomes and gear and complete the duty and they would usually NEED if the item was for their current job.

Some people look at me a little strange when I need against another smn for titan book, but that other smn just got his relic because I helped kill that titan anyways, so why should I not need it? You did the right thing needing for items you wanted to use. You also did the right thing reporting them. GMs are doing much better at policing DF these days (just saw a trio in a FC suspended for locking themselves out in ST and telling the alliance to do it without them if they could). The more people getting talked to for this crap, the less likely people are to think they can do it too.

And they aren't? Once you decide to turn it in for seals or desynth, the item ceases to be for your chosen role in that dungeon. Those other people in the group may very well "need" the item for seals/desynth JUST as much as you. Again, as I said in an earlier post, I won't tell you how to roll, I'll just leave and choose not to play with you. But it is total and utter selfishness. And you'd be a fool to think otherwise.

[Elim]

And they aren't? Once you decide to turn it in for seals or desynth, the item ceases to be for your chosen role in that dungeon. Those other people in the group may very well "need" the item for seals/desynth JUST as much as you. Again, as I said in an earlier post, I won't tell you how to roll, I'll just leave and choose not to play with you. But it is total and utter selfishness. And you'd be a fool to think otherwise.

Okay so both guy A and B want to roll on gear for seals. No problem. Both guy A and B can roll need on pieces for the class they're currently on.

Guy B isn't entitled to every single solitary piece of gear that drops in a dungeon or raid. Why? Because they can't need on every piece.

[ispano]

Okay so both guy A and B want to roll on gear for seals. No problem. Both guy A and B can roll need on pieces for the class they're currently on.

Guy B isn't entitled to every single solitary piece of gear that drops in a dungeon or raid. Why? Because they can't need on every piece.

I never said he was entitled. It's still the fair thing to do since everyone there participated. That and it helps even out the RNG a bit. I mean, you could get only tank drops the whole run and the tank would just take everything. Where if he greeded, everyone would have a CHANCE at something.

You would end up only having the RNG of rolling. And that's the other thing, Need/Greed wasn't designed with this type if thing in mind, WoW made a little progress for it when I played, but that still wasn't quite there. But I guess I'm talking to brick walls here.