the hunts made me hate this community now

[silentwindfr]

i love how people try to justify them own greed by saying: "we do this for the community, we bring people together"
let's be honest you do this for you first, the community it's just a steping stone that help you to get more mark than if you was doing with your small group.

i'm amazed by the hypocrisis of some people, hunt was never means to be a feature that reinforce the bond in the community and strangely it don't do it. people stick together because it in them interest. especially when we heard some story with hunting ls with rule almost as strict than the army, the people are amazing in them delussion, thanks to make my day tough.

[UnrealTai]

i love how people try to justify them own greed by saying: "we do this for the community, we bring people together"
let's be honest you do this for you first, the community it's just a steping stone that help you to get more mark than if you was doing with your small group.

i'm amazed by the hypocrisis of some people, hunt was never means to be a feature that reinforce the bond in the community and strangely it don't do it.

Spoken like a true ***face.
I wait every single time and I expect the same cause its called being courteous. There's nothing selfish about it otherwise id whine about not waiting and not wait myself, that's hypocritical.
Fact is your view this your view that, its a problem otherwise there wouldnt be so much drama over it, and a simple invincible for a few minutes timer on spawn would fix it all.
Take your meds.

[ispano]

Spoken like a true ***face.
I wait every single time and I expect the same cause its called being courteous. There's nothing selfish about it otherwise id whine about not waiting and not wait myself, that's hypocritical.
Fact is your view this your view that, its a problem otherwise there wouldnt be so much drama over it, and a simple invincible for a few minutes timer on spawn would fix it all.
Take your meds.

Except they're right. Waiting, to a degree, can hinder your own chances. Not to mention, waiting INVITES people to take it because YOU have not claimed it. The system was designed for smaller groups than currently do it. And there's a few reasons for that decision. However, it's your choice to wait, but once you start doing that you EXPECT people to wait, otherwise they're discourteous in your eyes, which is wrong.

You basically look at it from the PoV of how YOU do it, and treat that as the "right" way to do it. So you start treating people who don't, poorly.

[Jakeson]

i love how people try to justify them own greed by saying: "we do this for the community, we bring people together"
let's be honest you do this for you first, the community it's just a steping stone that help you to get more mark than if you was doing with your small group.

i'm amazed by the hypocrisis of some people, hunt was never means to be a feature that reinforce the bond in the community and strangely it don't do it. people stick together because it in them interest. especially when we heard some story with hunting ls with rule almost as strict than the army, the people are amazing in them delussion, thanks to make my day tough.

I love how some people honestly don't see this as a community. But then again, it isn't because most things are instanced...because the one time a game tries to bring out some open world content, it turns into this mess.

[ispano]

I love how some people honestly don't see this as a community. But then again, it isn't because most things are instanced...because the one time a game tries to bring out some open world content, it turns into this mess.

But that's sort of what comes with open world content, competition. But no, can't have that, can we?

[Jakeson]

But that's sort of what comes with open world content, competition. But no, can't have that, can we?

I don't get how this is a competition. Is there any edge gained by not waiting?

edit: I won't even say waiting, I mean just being polite and helpful and working together.

[ispano]

I don't get how this is a competition. Is there any edge gained by not waiting?

edit: I won't even say waiting, I mean just being polite and helpful and working together.

It's in the nature of the system, if you don't get it, that means you are likely refusing to see it that way. Not to mention, many people look at competition, in a negative way. When it's supposed to be friendly competition. When people try to turn a system like that into "Everyone gets rewarded, share it around" it gets boring for many people. The amount of people doing it your way brings is bad in at least two ways. One it trivializes the fight, when they're already rather easy to beat. Secondly, it causes the server to choke due to how many people are in one area, something they cannot be realistically expected to handle.

And the edge is they get the rewards and you don't. I bet you anything, if Sand and Oil were not on the reward list, this whole situation would be entirely different.

[Jakeson]

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I get what you're saying, but if I run around for four hours and don't get a single mark due to "competition" I'm not going to pay for this game anymore. So if that's the sort of competition you're looking for, I think you're going to turn off a large portion of the player base. In my opinion, it's a player vs. environment system, not a player vs. player. So the way I see it, is that it is meant for people to work together. if you don't get it, that means you are likely refusing to see it that way.

[ispano]

I get what you're saying, but if I run around for four hours and don't get a single mark due to "competition" I'm not going to pay for this game anymore. So if that's the sort of competition you're looking for, I think you're going to turn off a large portion of the player base. In my opinion, it's a player vs. environment system, not a player vs. player. So the way I see it, is that it is meant for people to work together. if you don't get it, that means you are likely refusing to see it that way.

No, I see it your way, I'm saying your way is harmful. I won't ever say I don't "understand" or anything of the sort, because I make an effort to think things through and understand. That doesn't mean that you're correct. Anyone who thinks about hunts long enough, looks at how they work and such, can tell how they were meant to be done. You choose to do it differently, and that's FINE. Nothing wrong with doing things differently. What's wrong, is the harassment that goes on towards those who DON'T do it your way. And, yes, I know people on the opposite side of yours who do that as well. But your group has the large zerg behind it, to help push your agenda.

Just be aware of the community you create.

So should you. I'd rather not have the community that thinks they need to be able to get everything, just because they pay for the game, get any larger. Not to mention the people that have various other, yet similar, mindsets.



Lastly, I know how this system works. People like to claim that every single person in a huge zerg can get full credit. And that's simply not possible. It works in a similar fashion to a FATE. After you reach a certain amount of participants, be it a solo player or a group, there will be a limit on how many people can get Gold and potentially silver. The system was designed that way. If I find a A or B, and there is a small handful of people around if it's an A, I go. We are there, we found it, we're killing it. So keep playing your way, I won't bark at you for it. But I will bark at you for harassing those who don't play your way.

[Nicobo]

I don't get how this is a competition. Is there any edge gained by not waiting?...

For example, someone is killing mark_A, and asking ppl at mark_B and mark_C hold, so he can have mark_A, B and C all killed.
However, someone at mark_C don't want to wait, bcoz he want kill mark_C now then rush to mark_A or B. ^^;