So My Neighbors Quit the Game & Left Behind Their Abandoned FC House

[lynyan]

anyone who's on a high population server should know exactly why it would be a good thing for houses to auto delete due to inactivity. our free company is very small and it took us a while to get the FC rank for a house, and by the time we did, every single ward in every single housing area on excal was full, minus like, a medium and a large (which we can't afford and wouldn't want to purchase anyways since there's like 5 of us). house purging would give FCs like ours an actual chance to get a house on servers with lots of people on them, instead of having to twiddle our thumbs waiting for them to add a new ward again.

[Yahavage]

I suggested a while back FC's should be able to sell back the land for less than the lowest price it will drop too - the prospect of regaining some money should help the problem.

No dev response though, so I guess it's easier to just add new wards and blame server loads for stuff rather than recycle what's already there.

(And not that I'm butthurt, but not longer after my post, devs respond to post about going barefoot? Really? I know they can't respond to everything but... yeah ok I got butthurt -.- lol)

[Dark-Saviour]

While it sucks when housing wards end up being as inactive as some are, I don't feel deleting houses is an acceptable solution. Especially if it applies to personal housing.
If I bought a house and knew that it was going to be deleted during a break, I'd never bother coming back.

I'd really like to see them open up the possibility of completely instanced 'grottos' and the like to put houses in.
The neighborhood concept was interesting early on, but the way it was handled is... not so great...
Granted I'm more concerned with how personal housing is going to go than FC housing, but since its apt to be (essentially) the same all-around, the same concerns still apply.
That said, I believe the real reason for deleting houses is more to cheap out on datacenter operations, but still; if/when they implement it, I'd like to see them have to admit that is the reason instead of citing abandoned wards giving off a 'bad atmosphere'.

[HeroSamson]

What they need to do is this.

If the person is gone, the house goes back up for sale, though the person who has the permit at the time gets the gil.

This way its not a total loss someone gets the house and furnishing and the person gets his gil for what he invested into the property.

They should also give the option to sell house on your own.

[Xystic]

What they need to do is this.

If the person is gone, the house goes back up for sale, though the person who has the permit at the time gets the gil.

That would no longer make it a gil sink.

[Lithera]

There's an argument against auto delete for Personal Housing, but FC is different. Many of those saying No to auto eviction are 3 and 4 person FCs and SOLO FCs using FC housing as Personal Housing.

[PureEclipse]

It took SOE a while to figure this out for SWG as well....after NGE hit entire cities became ghost towns and stayed that way for some time..

I think their solution (memory is fuzzy at best) was after the house was abandoned for set amount of day (90 maybe more?) than it became flagged for demolition and the players could demo the house and get a reward er something for it. The house wasn't fully destroyed just went back to that players datapad but it freed the space up.

The worse part is, I fear this will become a much larger issue in 2.38

[chocomaid]

I'm all for removing inactive houses so new FCs can have a shot at them, as long as the inactive FC doesn't get boned. Instead of gil cause that can cause quite an imbalance, just send a property deed of the same size to the last FC master/company chest.

-Spaces for New FCs, check.
-Lively Wards, check.
-Incentive for old players to come back, check.
-Less complaints for SE, check.

[arctic]

What they need to do is this.

If the person is gone, the house goes back up for sale, though the person who has the permit at the time gets the gil.

All right, so this might be over thinking things as far as possible devious deeds go, but just the same trolls will be trolls. If this system were in place and you had a FC leader become disgruntled what would prevent them from booting everyone out of the FC and then waiting to collect the gil from the house at some point?

I think I like the idea of getting a deed to purchase another house down the line to replace the one lost as one of the better solutions, personal housing inside said FC housing might be getting the short end of the stick though.

[HeroSamson]

All right, so this might be over thinking things as far as possible devious deeds go, but just the same trolls will be trolls. If this system were in place and you had a FC leader become disgruntled what would prevent them from booting everyone out of the FC and then waiting to collect the gil from the house at some point?

I think I like the idea of getting a deed to purchase another house down the line to replace the one lost as one of the better solutions, personal housing inside said FC housing might be getting the short end of the stick though.

Not really if the house is empty with no members and someone decides to come back at least they have something to fall back on. If you lose your private room all furnishing in that and all furnishing in the house you spent a lot of gil on you would be mad. I would probably think person wouldn't come back to the game that's bad bis.

In FFXI if I came back and my character didn't have all of its gear and everything I worked hard to get I would probably quit all together and do something else.

You have to realize small house almost 3mil, then almost 500k for a permit, 300k for private room, depending on what furnishing you have that's like a few million gil there.

then other's private rooms with furnishing saying if they took a break or not.