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  1. #41
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    It never makes sense for someone to region the same party they got kicked from. That if nothing else is what should change.
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  2. #42
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by themadnun View Post
    When a person is kicked for harassment/afk/whatever other reason they have the opportunity to join again through duty finder's "Join in progress". Multiple times I have experienced a person being kicked and then sits with DF open queueing for the instance and manages to join multiple times.

    Party members can only vote to kick once every 4 hours so after 3 rejoins the griefer can just sit there afk until everybody has to abandon.

    Banning the player from entering that specific instance after being kicked will remove this common griefing tactic.

    the reason for kicking someone arent always correct. Did you take this into account?..people use harrassement to justitfy a kick but in fact it wasnt, more then not the guy did absolutely nothing if not to be not good but since you need a reason to kick, often then not is the *harrassement* that is being used.

    what you propose is not correct because simply people arent always kicked for the TRUE reason.

    Mei
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  3. #43
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    the reason for kicking someone arent always correct. Did you take this into account?..people use harrassement to justitfy a kick but in fact it wasnt, more then not the guy did absolutely nothing if not to be not good but since you need a reason to kick, often then not is the *harrassement* that is being used.

    what you propose is not correct because simply people arent always kicked for the TRUE reason.

    Mei
    And is the current situation so much better? You have people demanding vote kick if they are not in the dungeon they want otherwise they will do everything to make you do so.
    Vote kick should give the same or more amount of "not allowed to join" time then just leaving a dungeon. What is the point of a punishment (which it should be used as) if its actually a reward for being a prick.

    And i bet more people will use it for good use rather then for harrsement (which can be reported)
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  4. #44
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    PixelPirate's Avatar
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    Hettan Rennik
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    This just happened to me last night. Kicked a troll for trolling. Then said troll queues right back into the exact same dungeon from which he was just kicked. He laughed at us and we were all forced to abandon the dungeon #thxsquareenix.
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    P.S. This is not my main...

  5. #45
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    themadnun's Avatar
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    Report the players for abusing the votekick system. This is a completely separate issue.

    Edit - this was to the guy saying he got booted from CT2. Not sure why the quote didn't come up.
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  6. #46
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    Dayala's Avatar
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    D'ayhala Uhn
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    Hyperion
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    Too bad it's not like 1.0 where you could switch jobs in dungeons, it would solve a lot of problems (and I'm sure raise a million more from a game / dev point of view) It was amazing to switch on a dime to meet the pt needs.

    Myself, I've suffered through trolls rejoining parties - depending on the job you kicked, you might have to just straight up abandon. If you kick a tank, you're most likely going to have them back immediately. It's awful. Had the same issue with Moogle Ex, we kicked an undergeared tank who couldn't rub two brain cells together to follow directions and they just kept rejoining and pulling the boss as soon as they loaded. We had to abandon.

    Generally unpleasant.
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  7. #47
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    themadnun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    the reason for kicking someone arent always correct. Did you take this into account?..people use harrassement to justitfy a kick but in fact it wasnt, more then not the guy did absolutely nothing if not to be not good but since you need a reason to kick, often then not is the *harrassement* that is being used.

    what you propose is not correct because simply people arent always kicked for the TRUE reason.

    Mei
    Irrelevant. If you're kicked for no good reason you don't want to get back into that instance with those people who kicked you. This just means you won't end up back in the same instance as those players, which is good for you.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    It never makes sense for someone to region the same party they got kicked from. That if nothing else is what should change.
    Exactly the point of the post.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    TBH, I encounter story like @Duuude007 a few time weekly and this is the first time I hear OP story. so to me OP story is one in a mill and Duuude007 is happen way too far often.

    if anything just make it so that if you get kick then you cannot join back to the party that kick you. (using PT leader or instantID to determine, if you can join back to that group or not.)
    This is exactly what the original post says.

    I think I'll edit and add a very clear explanation.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    And is the current situation so much better? You have people demanding vote kick if they are not in the dungeon they want otherwise they will do everything to make you do so.
    Vote kick should give the same or more amount of "not allowed to join" time then just leaving a dungeon. What is the point of a punishment (which it should be used as) if its actually a reward for being a prick.

    And i bet more people will use it for good use rather then for harrsement (which can be reported)
    I'm not suggesting a punishment - simply that you can't end up back in the same party as the people who kicked you from (their particular instance), so you can requeue with in-progress freely without worrying about getting in with the people who kicked you again.

    Votekick can and is abused, so sticking a penalty time would sometimes be punishing a victim.
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