New idea for trade craft/ gathering dungeon.

[Parz3val]

Easy.

A Frontline where 72 Players fight practically MOBA-style.

Two full Parties of fighters, one of Crafters/Gatherers.

Crafters build ammunition, cannons, ramparts, siege, weaponry, etc.

Gatherers... gather, though nodes are competitively captured, sometimes guarded, with dynamically spawning unspoileds on timers.

Returning certain goods to base will spawn more allied NPC's to fight & defend.

So on & so forth.

To be updated more in-depth later on... in Guardians viewing #3 right now lol.

For later personal Reference: 48v48 non-GC descript may be better; the allied NPC's could be the players' Retainers which can be micro-managed to help gather or fight; crafters could legitimately craft the retainers' gear sets for field-use; certain capture-points could provide special bonuses like a Mine unlocking safe, private material access or a Factory offering ambient crafting bonuses.

[ForteXX]

Easy.

A Frontline where 72 Players fight practically MOBA-style.

Two full Parties of fighters, one of Crafters/Gatherers.

Crafters build ammunition, cannons, ramparts, siege, weaponry, etc.

Gatherers... gather, though nodes are competitively captured, sometimes guarded, with dynamically spawning unspoileds on timers.

Returning certain goods to base will spawn more allied NPC's to fight & defend.

So on & so forth.

To be updated more in-depth later on... in Guardians viewing #3 right now lol.

For later personal Reference: 48v48 non-GC descript may be better; the allied NPC's could be the players' Retainers which can be micro-managed to help gather or fight; crafters could legitimately craft the retainers' gear sets for field-use; certain capture-points could provide special bonuses like a Mine unlocking safe, private material access or a Factory offering ambient crafting bonuses.

Hamlet Defense
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hamlet_Defense

[Parz3val]

Hamlet Defense
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hamlet_Defense

Never heard of this before. Sounds like a much weaker v. of what I had in mind.

Too long-winded, doesn't sound epic enough & coop only... bland.

[Nutz]

Never heard of this before. Sounds like a much weaker v. of what I had in mind.

Too long-winded, doesn't sound epic enough & coop only... bland.

I never got into hamlet defense, not for itself, just the rest of the game ran too poorly and I couldn't get into it in general, but I hear it was quite popular. I don't think the 75 hour duration would go over well with the current player base though. Compressing it into a single Frontlines type encounter, perhaps extending it to an hour, I think would be exciting and an interesting take on PvP. Certainly they could do PvE versions as well, even the extended hamlet defense style or near constant FFXI-esque campaign style of encounter.

Really I think most people are just looking to do something a little bit different with our crafters and gatherers. The community seems to be full of ideas and the devs seem to be full of 'not planning anything of the sort'.

[Tupsi]

Never heard of this before. Sounds like a much weaker v. of what I had in mind.

Too long-winded, doesn't sound epic enough & coop only... bland.

Probably because what you describe is something you'd sooner see in League of Legends than you would side content in a non-MOBA MMORPG.