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  1. #151
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    Makado's Avatar
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    Makado Kitase
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    The point is not being able to accept you cannot have everything...because you can. The only thing you cannot currently have on one character is desynth, but you can just have more characters with the other skills.

    See, the point is SE wants these as an incentive to have players run the old primals. But with the drop rate, no one wants to because...why waste your time? I used to do them all the time when they were newer and I've never even seen a single one drop of any type. They automatically fail their mission of "wanting players to keep doing them" by having a drop rate that is almost 0. They could just make it like a 10% chance and I think people would be happy.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    The point is not being able to accept you cannot have everything...because you can. The only thing you cannot currently have on one character is desynth, but you can just have more characters with the other skills.

    See, the point is SE wants these as an incentive to have players run the old primals. But with the drop rate, no one wants to because...why waste your time? I used to do them all the time when they were newer and I've never even seen a single one drop of any type. They automatically fail their mission of "wanting players to keep doing them" by having a drop rate that is almost 0. They could just make it like a 10% chance and I think people would be happy.
    Let me know when you have obtained every possible item in the game, on one character, i will await your tales.

    The point to this is if you are unable to obtain a certain item crying about it isn't going to solve everything.

    You would think with how much most items in this game are just handed to you with minimal effort a few things that are actually rare to get and we got a topic with people crying about how hard they are to get. and mounts of all things.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    You would think with how much most items in this game are just handed to you with minimal effort a few things that are actually rare to get and we got a topic with people crying about how hard they are to get. and mounts of all things.
    The thing about "effort", is that far too many people equate "effort" with "time needed to get it".

    People say that these mounts take "effort" to obtain, but in reality they don't take "effort", they take "luck" and if you're unlucky they take "effort + luck".

    If they implemented a token system where after 50-100 specific fights you can trade in the tokens to obtain a mount (or even crafting materials), then you could say that obtaining these was a matter of effort.
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  4. #154
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    If it's affecting your well-being and time, then don't farm for these mounts? Problem solved.
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  5. #155
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    King Adunis
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    Just up the droprate to 3% SE.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Just up the droprate to 300% SE.
    much better !
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  7. #157
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    I think it's a good thing to see something awesome someone else has and think, woah that is so cool I've never see that before! It makes me think maybe one day i'll be lucky and get one. I don't feel the need to endlessly grind primals to get one but it would be awesome if I did!

    If there was lots more of such items in the game it would create variety rather than EVERYONE on the whole server having the same things, like the Darklight clones... anyone remember that? or when they gave out the fat chocobos...

    Anyways... there are still some but very few items in the game that people will never have no matter how much they grind and moan. If you don't want to go insane don't! Get all of the beast tribe mounts or something else which is grindable!
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattlex View Post
    If there was lots more of such items in the game it would create variety rather than EVERYONE on the whole server having the same things, like the Darklight clones... anyone remember that? or when they gave out the fat chocobos...
    This is only bad for those that want to be a special snowflake. Completionists want to be able to get everything.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The thing about "effort", is that far too many people equate "effort" with "time needed to get it".

    People say that these mounts take "effort" to obtain, but in reality they don't take "effort", they take "luck" and if you're unlucky they take "effort + luck".

    If they implemented a token system where after 50-100 specific fights you can trade in the tokens to obtain a mount (or even crafting materials), then you could say that obtaining these was a matter of effort.
    An effort to obtain a mount, that moves no quicker then the many other mounts in the game, it's just simply a unicorn with different colors. For me personally, it is a wasted effort. and my character is all about fire so i wouldn't even mind the fire one, but i could careless if i ever saw it. because it does nothing special but look cool.
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  10. #160
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    Let me know when you have obtained every possible item in the game, on one character, i will await your tales.

    The point to this is if you are unable to obtain a certain item crying about it isn't going to solve everything.

    You would think with how much most items in this game are just handed to you with minimal effort a few things that are actually rare to get and we got a topic with people crying about how hard they are to get. and mounts of all things.
    I'm saying you can have everything. Not that everyone will. But my main point is they are defeating the purpose of having the mounts on the primals (for people to keep running them) by having a drop rate of basically nothing. It has nothing to do with being upset at how hard it is to get them, people aren't doing them (what they wanted to happen) anyways.
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