Was Coil 2 and Ramuh extreme over tune?

[Felessan]

Then came 2.2 and there was i110 gear for raiders but people that only did the easy stuff were stuck at i100.

This was done partly to slow down raid progression and passing coil simply through overgear as we see way back in the 2.0. So easy ways to boost stats was hampered (weathered soldiery stuff) or removed (crafted ilvl90 jewelry) for some time.
Guess what? 2.3 came out and casuals again on the same level as raiders with their new access to unlimited sands&oils. 115 weapons (as was with 95 weapons) will be still privilege of raiders.

[Alphras]

SCOB is fine. The only problem of Ramuh Extreme is, that it came at the same time as the Hunts.

[BobbinT]

agreed. Hunt sorta mess other contents, not really for the weak will. lol

This shouldn't be much problem with strong static though since they usually committed.

[Gucci_Charms]

I don't think SCOB or Ramuh or any fight is ever overtuned. All it takes is a number of practice runs and hours to learn the fight and get it down.

What I do find overtuned, however, is Echo buff. The devs should just add an instant win button if they wanted people to get easy wins with minimal effort.

When you work towards something that requires a lot of investment, that time you put in it makes it all the more worthwhile such as university, professional designation, tournaments, etc.

The sense of entitlement in this community amazes me.

[Gilthas]

When you work towards something that requires a lot of investment, that time you put in it makes it all the more worthwhile such as university, professional designation, tournaments, etc.

Not really. Most of the time when something takes a long time to get at the end there's a lot more relief that it's finally done than joy.

[Alise]

So... are you saying no one with the right average ilvl could beat that said content?

Not really, I think he talk mostly about some people stay at that level, but then there are some high level in mix to balance thing out. When he talk it at that time, he point out for DF of the Silent dungeon in the past that people say impossible to beat with lowest requirement. Mainly, I think he doesn't expect whole party to all be at minimum level. He think every party will have higher level members in mix.

[Jubez187]

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ITT: Someone with a static that probably raids with them 5+ nights a week, all with voice chat, saying this game is too easy.

[Felessan]

SCOB is fine. The only problem of Ramuh Extreme is, that it came at the same time as the Hunts.

Stat-wise Ramuh rings often better than 110 rings even though they are only ilvl100 (at least BRD and casters ones are).

What I do find overtuned, however, is Echo buff. The devs should just add an instant win button if they wanted people to get easy wins with minimal effort.

A lot of people still struggle with Twintania, even with 20% echo, and that content is almost an year old already. So - no, echo is not overtuned, echo was promoted as a way for more casual players gain access to content that considered "old" and not "frontline/hardcore/cutting-edge".
I really don't want to see a situation (again) where you can't pass 3-4 years old content no matter how you try, just because you play 5 hours a week and have no mental strength to be determined in game. I was really frustrated back in FF11 when I couldn't have done CoP even after WotG came out just because I was very "casual" as I spent a lot of time and dedication on my work that barred me from any static or even remotedly hardcore participation in game.

[Taruranto]

Oh boohoo, is the precious princess sad that you can't be a special snowflake anymore?

With the original system in 2.0 there was i90 gear for raiders and i90 gear for people that only did the easy stuff. The BiS items required a mix of the two, thus giving incentive for raiders to raid.

Then came 2.2 and there was i110 gear for raiders but people that only did the easy stuff were stuck at i100.

No matter how stuck up you are and how awesome you believe yourself to be, those "filthy casuals" need something to look forward to too, and the only reason to keep the max iLvl gear exclusive to raiders is to pander to people like you that can only feel good about themselves if they can look down on others.

Yes, because wanting people to be rewarded for their efforts means "looking down on others". But luckily, because of WoW kiddies like you, even people who don't know shit about their job can be top level and feel awesome! Based Yoshi.

[Metatronn]

OP relax.. you dont need to clear the content asap, cause SE will make ilvs on Tcoil, gets to everyone sooner or later, like they do with hunts and ST. The majority of ppl who play this game cant do Scoil, and if they get left behind, they will quit the game and Yoshi does not want that. So, "hardcore" ppl liking or not, all the player will get the chance to gear up without doing raids, This game is not on the hardcore's side and will never be. I plan on doing Scoil with my FC soon but im not in a rush, cause i know its not necessary.

I pity the rude woman of the beggining of this topic. Everyone will gear up in this game, girl (or man, since i never meet a girl this rude), if you dont like it, leave.