SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Gormogon]

You just proved how bad of tools we have for finding DoT damage are available natively with this post.

It's an example and you let it go way over your head just so you can prove your "I need my parsers" fiasco. I know how much my thunder does without the need of parsers. It's a shame you are that dependent of a parser to figure it out. If you hate math then say so in which just go fight a level 49 mob and toss a tick on it and kite it around see how much it does. You can also throw up more two dots and see how it goes and so on.

That laziness and dependency is what causes end game environments to go down the drain.

[Appleh4x]

It's an example and you let it go way over your head just so you can prove your "I need my parsers" fiasco. I know how much my thunder does without the need of parsers. It's a shame you are that dependent of a parser to figure it out. If you hate math then say so in which just go fight a level 49 mob and toss a tick on it and kite it around see how much it does. You can also throw up more two dots and see how it goes and so on.

That laziness and dependency is what causes end game environments to go down the drain.

You are without a doubt the least informed person I have ever talked to on any forum, ever. I actually use the parser because I love the math. The example you gave of tracking damage by throwing a dot on a level 49 is so unbelievably stupid on so many levels.

Through the course of a fight there are dozens of factors that affect the damage your dots do. Self buffs, enemy debuffs, stat potions, foe requiem, clipping your dots for whatever reason, whether the DoT initial hit even lands 100% of the time or not, how it affects your tp/mp management, etc. Just throwing a DoT on a mob and looking for the float damage that isn't shown in the log to pop up and then writing all that down and adding it up is a horrible way to try and find out how much DoT damage you're doing through the course of a fight.

[Tiggy]

You are without a doubt the least informed person I have ever talked to on any forum, ever. I actually use the parser because I love the math. The example you gave of tracking damage by throwing a dot on a level 49 is so unbelievably stupid on so many levels.

He ALWAYS trolls these topics. He doesn't do end game and he thinks he understands every single aspect of the game and that we simply don't get it. The worst part is when you prove him wrong he always twists it like "you guys just don't understand what I'm saying." He's frustrating beyond belief and you will never get through to him.

Don't feed the troll. Just ignore him.

If someone had to meet an arbitrary level of 3 work points to make it feel really hard, and then suddenly they start to play better- it would make sense SE would have to set the bar to 4. In this case the player is still working hard, but the content is harder for those who didn't parse. The point isn't to say parsers are lazy or something weird, just that parsing creates the need for parsing and that has repercussions to other players.

I can completely agree with this. Parsers create a system where the limit is known and therefore the limits must constantly be pushed harder and harder creating a feedback loop. The problem is Pandora's box has already been opened with third party apps, and the only hope we have of equalizing the playing field is to have some type of in game system.

[Appleh4x]

He ALWAYS trolls these topics. He doesn't do end game and he thinks he understands every single aspect of the game and that we simply don't get it. The worst part is when you prove him wrong he always twists it like "you guys just don't understand what I'm saying." He's frustrating beyond belief and you will never get through to him.

Don't feed the troll. Just ignore him.

I remember when I first watched SAO I thought the scene when all the players were calling the beta testers cheaters and making them out be villains for having more knowledge was so stupid and far fetched. Then I read this thread and realized those people are real, and actually even more ridiculous than the cartoon.

[Tiggy]

I remember when I first watched SAO I thought the scene when all the players were calling the beta testers cheaters and making them out be villains was so stupid and far fetched. Then I read this thread and realized those people are real, and actually even more ridiculous than the cartoon.

Oh god that scene where they keep ripping on "beaters"?

Yeah...it happens....It really is sad. They aren't on the same level for whatever reason (time, skill, real life distractions, whatever) and they feel the need to villanize people that are doing harder content than they are. People need to look more inward and take some personal responsibility for their situations.

I wouldn't waste your breath, Kaethra's already ignored the previous half dozen posts that stated the exact same thing.

Some children just can't handle having their toys taken away.

The worst part is I literally copy and pasted it directly from the ToS.
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