SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Mcshiggs]

What you are describing in your first paragraph is a player issue.

Have you not been playing XIV, I'm not saying what is right and wrong, I am saying this is how SE handles it. Everything from not being able to mail to our alts, to crafting not being a part of end game, it opens it up for RMT abuse, player issues, not issues with the system itself. SE has made it clear they want to avoid handing people information players can use to harass others. I believe that if parsers were to be implemented, some would use them properly, but I am sure that tons of people would use them the way SE doesn't want them to be used. Turn 7 seeking monk, must parse X dps or get kicked, that is what SE doesn't want, but that is what parsers would bring. You have to remember this is a business, saying they should put them in and just police how people use them would mean they would probably have to hire more GMs, or you could expect ticket times to go from hours to days. I am sure they have looked at this from every direction, and have their idea on how useful they would be versus how much wasted time for GMs and grief for players they would cause.

I have used parsers in other games I know how useful they can be, but I have also seen the community in this game, and have seen how hateful they can be, parsers would just add another flame for them to fan. Some parsers too, require multiple people to have to be completely accurate, if you are too far away, sometime this can be just on the other side of the room, from the person parsing, your numbers could come up low because their parser didn't pick up everything, and this helps bring in, not only you must parse X to get in my group, you must also have these addons to be welcome as well.

[Firepower]

Most DPS checks in the game are completely trivial by the mid patch of each cycle and exist only really to slow down the front runners from clearing the entire set of new content within the first week. I can understand the use of parsers for the specific groups that are trying to clear the newest content immediately and server firsts as it requires getting every single little bit of DPS out of your lesser geared characters. Roll on 3 months later and everyone is walking around about 10 ilevels higher than necessary (from just easily obtainable tome gear) for the dps check in the first place. Then at this point parsers become pointless because you don't need them to "maximise" dps as you already do enough to pass the checks necessary and the majority of all the fights from there on is just not dying.

[Tashigi]

I have used parsers in other games I know how useful they can be, but I have also seen the community in this game, and have seen how hateful they can be, parsers would just add another flame for them to fan.

People will be jerks regardless of what you give or take away from them.
You're essentially punishing everyone, just to get a select few. I would be greatly opposed to this approach.

[Mcshiggs]

People will be jerks regardless of what you give or take away from them.
You're essentially punishing everyone, just to get a select few. I would be greatly opposed to this approach.

You support this approach every month you pay, because this is already happening with how they handle RMTs.

[Elven]

Wrong analogy there.

Sprinter A: *finishes 100m sprint* Wew, I think that was my best run, I was on fire!

Sprinter B: *finishes 100m sprint* *Takes out stopwatch and stops it* Hmm, that was worse than my last run, I think I need work on my starting technique.

Sprinter A: Hey that is cheating!

Sprinter B: Uh, sorry what?

That is a terrible analogy a stop watch is a key necessity to any competitive athlete like running shoes for all that was worth you might as well have said sprinter A: insists on wearing long lace up boots when he runs.

[Barimu]

That is a terrible analogy a stop watch is a key necessity to any competitive athlete like running shoes for all that was worth you might as well have said sprinter A: insists on wearing long lace up boots when he runs.

Its actually a pretty decent analogy. If SE has a DPS race in the game which it does due to enrage towers, you need to be able to see dps.

[Mcshiggs]

Its actually a pretty decent analogy. If SE has a DPS race in the game which it does due to enrage towers, you need to be able to see dps.

Why do you need to see it, are you saying it is impossible to clear these without this information? I think your definition of need and want are mixed up.

[Elven]

Its actually a pretty decent analogy. If SE has a DPS race in the game which it does due to enrage towers, you need to be able to see dps.

Well no the point is you are given the necessary tools to complete the task are you saying it's not possible to get it done without a parser?

[PixelPirate]

The stand alone game is conquerable without the aid of a single crutch such as a parser, radar, or otherwise. FFXIV is no where near the difficulty level of games that "require" parsing. If you feel as though it's necessary in this game, well I hate to break it to you -- you should just get better. No game is impossible to beat without a 3rd party crutch -- after all what did your parents do to beat such games as TMNT.

[Kaethra]

That is a terrible analogy a stop watch is a key necessity to any competitive athlete like running shoes for all that was worth you might as well have said sprinter A: insists on wearing long lace up boots when he runs.

Its not a terrible analogy. Just like in my PT test example earlier. When I was running a PT test and had to run a 2 mile in a certain time, I would look at my watch and see where I was at when I reached the halfway mark. If I was running a bit slower than needed that let me know I needed to pick it up.

A Parser lets a static group get more information in the same way. If they aren't beating a DPS check, they can then look to see who is under performing. If its a gear issue, thats easy to see. But what if everyone is the same item level? Do you take every individual to an instance and time them on boss fights? Well guess what? You're parsing by doing that.

All a parser is in reality is a stopwatch and a calculator. Sometimes its a spreadsheet too.

I guess that's all the pro-parser community has to do. Instead of saying, "The parser shows you're lacking DPS". Just say, "my calculator shows your lacking DPS." I'd love to see the press that SE would get if they start actioning people for saying they are using calculators.

Seriously, you guys should report these threads for being in violation of the TOS if parsing is really bannable and you honestly believe it to be a cheat and/or against the TOS:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Temple-Reborn
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...age-Calculator

(anyone have the ones for SMN and BRD handy? I don't know if they exist)

I'm calling the bluff on the anti-parsing crowd. Lets see if they report those threads.