Your thoughts on the direction of this game?

[Gramul]

I just hope they add a little more complexity and engagement down the line. This oversimplification isn't all that, well, fun.
And step back from all the cheesy glowy crap a bit.

I have a lot more to say, but y'all have heard it all before.

Ah, the days of blind FFXI "Go find this item, it's somewhere in the world"

"Go find this NPC, he is hiding somewhere where in the world"

You know, I actually really like that. Relying on knowing where things actually are, NPCs telling you the name of the location instead of just marking your map, having to communicate with people to find out information.

[allecs]

So I'm guessing you have never done any of the extreme primals, Ifrit especially. If you have then either someone taught you the mechanics who watched a video or you watched a video yourself. Please enlighten me on how you discovered how searing wind works, and how you told the other healer when to switch so you wouldn't murder half the party, or how you knew where to stand during each part of the fight. How about on Titan Extreme, tell me how you discovered how to handle the superbomb

I didn't have to tell the other healer what to do lol.
Let me ask you this, those people who make the videos? Who told them what to do? Also Who told the first people that ever cleared it what to do? /rolleyes
Instead of staring at your keyboard look at the screen and pay attention to whats going on and follow what others are doing.

[IgnisFatuus]

Ah, the days of blind FFXI "Go find this item, it's somewhere in the world"

"Go find this NPC, he is hiding somewhere where in the world"

Really....?

I know that the adoulin missions have proper descriptions now, although it's not anywhere close to quest markers.

must have been funny in ye olde days. it launched before youtube and wikipedia-clones were a thing, so I guess hearsay and forums were all you got.

[Tupsi]

Ah, the days of blind FFXI "Go find this item, it's somewhere in the world"

"Go find this NPC, he is hiding somewhere where in the world"

Really....?

Funny how this existed before and after FFXI. What exactly...was your first MMORPG?

[Fendred]

1) I can see this as interesting. It would be more in lines of having both melee and ranged attacks to shake up the group.

Yeah, that was what I was thinking myself. More like Final Fantasy Tactics only in real time.

2) Not sure if adding more mechanics to "trash mobs" would make people happier. Take for example the mole from 1.0. The dove under ground and resurfaced at another location. This would add to the time it takes to kill them and those making them annoying rather than challenging. As far as dps becoming back up tanks, not sure I care for this either. We have instances that require a back up tank and tank trade offs. We also have instance that require dps to refocus their attention on adds or the group wipes. Honestly the whole point of a tank is to absorb damage and keep the monster attention on them. Like healers, if you can add a little extra dps good but that shouldn't be your prime focus.

Damage dealers as of right now mostly take advantage of teamwork as opposed to contributing to it because of how their role is set up. The idea here is to increase the importance of positioning and crowd-control mechanics and lower the need for tanking.

3) This too seems like a interesting idea though not sure how important it would be since the tank should be facing the monster away from the party.

Some monsters detect by sound. The same kind of rapid aggro increase could happen if a black mage is doing his incantations too close to an intelligent bat monster. For those fights, if melee damage dealers are involved, all attacking party members may need to juggle threat and use stuns. Again, the idea is to involve all party members in how aggro is managed. In addition, if they add spells like "sneak", which lower the chance of being detected by sound, their would be at least three ways to tackle said bat demon: Have all melee combatants aggro juggle/stun, have all ranged keep their distance while the tank handles things, or have some unspecified class with access to the sneak spell cast sneak on melee dps and handle it that way. It also creates a reason for spells like "sneak" and "invisibility" to be brought back, which also create some interesting options for the open world.

Also, it opens the possibility of defeating an encounter by avoiding it. A concept generally left unrewarded and unrefined in MMORPG combat.

But like with all things, once you learn how to do something it can become tedious and boring. I'm replaying the Last of Us and it's not having the same impact as it did the first time around mainly because I now know the ends and outs of the game. I know what's about to happen and how to approach it.

Right now the problem isn't people growing bored of old content as much as the end game content being an overbloated memorization fest. It's scaring new players away. Skill at teamwork and class proficiency are secondary at best during those kinds of fights.

[Velthice]

Actually you asked what makes an interesting encounter to me and I told you.
BUT mmos I've played that I enjoyed and they don't require dodge; Aion, Rappelz, Iris online, WoW, Archeage, and Guildwars 2 just to name a FEW.

I asked that after I asked my original question actually. But considering your penchant for disregarding facts, I'm hardly surprised you'd claim otherwise.

I understand you were talking about coil because of difficulty but that's just ONE dungeon, I'm talking about the entire game. ONE dungeon can not save/make up the entire game. You do realize that right? Not to mention that's a weekly ran dungeon you can't even keep running plus I don't feel like it's as hard as people claim it to be.

It's nine dungeons actually, but thanks for admitting you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like someone else said earlier people have multiple chars. I stated before I was gone for awhile and game back. Dude to me not knowing my log in information and square enix providing NO help. I made this char, I've been playing this game since early release. That's why you shouldn't assume things with out asking. ._.

My heart bleeds for you, really.

You don't answer my questions because you can't. Also you don't think that's lop sided? You want me to answer you questions but you can't answer mine lmfao GTFO. I've played this game and it's all dodge rather you agree with that or not and it's boring.

Right, I can now assume you've never done pharos, amdapor township, Haukke hm, copperbell hm, stone vigil hm, hullbreaker isle, tam tara hm, pretty much any of the 50 dungeons, and a a good bit before that with Aurum Vale, Cutter's Cry, Sunken Temple, copperbell mines, stone vigil, darkhold, etc... and all that is without even touching the extreme primals.

All of those have encounters with mechanics more complicated than "don't stand in the fire." I'm starting to wonder if we're actually playing the same game.

Either way I'm done with you, go throw a fit and make sure to get the last word in, maybe someone else will pay attention to you.

[allecs]

I asked that after I asked my original question actually. But considering your penchant for disregarding facts, I'm hardly surprised you'd claim otherwise.

It's nine dungeons actually, but thanks for admitting you have no idea what you're talking about.

My heart bleeds for you, really.

Right, I can now assume you've never done pharos, amdapor township, Haukke hm, copperbell hm, stone vigil hm, hullbreaker isle, tam tara hm, pretty much any of the 50 dungeons, and a a good bit before that with Aurum Vale, Cutter's Cry, Sunken Temple, copperbell mines, stone vigil, darkhold, etc... and all that is without even touching the extreme primals.

All of those have encounters with mechanics more complicated than "don't stand in the fire." I'm starting to wonder if we're actually playing the same game.

Either way I'm done with you, go throw a fit and make sure to get the last word in, maybe someone else will pay attention to you.

Le sigh.

It's technically ONE raid broken down into 9 parts because I guess they can't handle big dungeons? But it's just ONE raid.

I've done all of those. I've done everything except the new coil because I'm not motivated too because it's just more dodge antics. All those dungeons have basic "Don't stand in the yellow" mechanics. Because dodge is the CORE mechanic.

I'm throwing a fit because I said one dungeon doesn't make up for the entire game yet you keep vomiting out coil? It's like basic comprehensions is above you. Also, I named the games for you, whats the next step? lol

[Jasiwel]

Has anyone look at the tags lately? LOL.

[Volcano]

Funny how this existed before and after FFXI. What exactly...was your first MMORPG?

I love how you keep trying to take shots at me at a sad attempt at trying to look cool, i know full well what has existed in MMOs, it's called nostalgia, is this your 1st time on the internet? you can stop trying kiddo, no brownie points for you.

[Tupsi]

That's like saying The airship levels in Mario Bros 3 makes Mario a challenging game just because of 1 level while ignoring that the rest of the game(s) are generally easy beyond reason. Yes, coil has "difficulty", but its team jump rope difficulty..which realistically isn't difficulty at all.

I love how you keep trying to take shots at me at a sad attempt at trying to look cool, i know full well what has existed in MMOs, it's called nostalgia, is this your 1st time on the internet? you can stop trying kiddo, no brownie points for you.

Your words - you've been taking shots at people this entire topic >.>