Your thoughts on the direction of this game?

[Volcano]

You clearly never played Vanilla or BC WoW because a 5 and 10 year old couldnt pick that up and learn how to play. I'm on one end of the spectrum and you're on the other end. You clearly don't do end game which is a lot peoples gripes with this game. And im not over praising wow if anyone overpraises wow its the director/producer/developer of this game yoshi p. And as many I will quit the game if the expansion turns out to be crap which it seems it will be

You clearly do not know the definition of "hard" if you thought that game was anywhere near difficult. im not going into a long dissuction to teach you the difference, But as someone posted above, there is the door if you do not like this game, feel free to go back to wow. where you thought it was hard as a kid.

[Barimu]

You clearly do not know the definition of "hard" if you thought that game was anywhere near difficult. im not going into a long dissuction to teach you the difference, But as someone posted above, there is the door if you do not like this game, feel free to go back to wow. where you thought it was hard as a kid.

I've already gone back to FFXI, why pay for this pos when the original FF MMO went the same direction but with more content. Also you clearly think everything is hard if you haven't done anything end game wise.

[Volcano]

I've already gone back to FFXI, why pay for this pos when the original FF MMO went the same direction but with more content. Also you clearly think everything is hard if you haven't done anything end game wise.

I love when people like you think someone only has one character, trust me, i have done more then what you actually see, but you aren't the 1st kid to make that mistake so no worries. FFXI is also a downgrade, but that's still up to you. "clearly" you think you have something to prove but complaining about none-sense does not really help your case.

Also if this game is truely so easy there where are your savage coil wins? why are you not clearing that flawlessly.

[allecs]

Also if this game is truely so easy there where are your savage coil wins? why are you not clearing that flawlessly.

But this game is easy, even the current WoW is a bit more difficult than this game. All you do is dodge and they even tell you where the moves are going to happen. And before you go "Where's your top tear gear?" I've been gone for awhile and right now I have no motivation to get to end game because it's not any different.
People think end game dungeons are magically different from pre end game dungeons. They aren't, they didn't do some whole new concept on the end game dungeons, it's still "Dodge!" this time you just need to dodge moar and the boss has a bigger HP pool. The thing that makes end game challenging is finding people that knows the difference between a power outlet and a keyboard ._.

[Derceto]

I love when people like you think someone only has one character, trust me, i have done more then what you actually see, but you aren't the 1st kid to make that mistake so no worries. FFXI is also a downgrade, but that's still up to you. "clearly" you think you have something to prove but complaining about none-sense does not really help your case.

Also if this game is truely so easy there where are your savage coil wins? why are you not clearing that flawlessly.

Really? You love it when someone assumes you only have one character, so you reply on the very character he was assuming you have? Way to show him. Oh but wait..... "trust me, i have done more then (?) what you actually see"

I really don't think his complaints are "none-sense (?)" (nonsense). Considering quite a few people on here are voicing, and supporting, the exact same concerns and complaints.

Also, "I" love it, when someone calls you out on your "achievements". Like it's any indication of your potential at this game when the battles are designed to piledrive your group should any 1 person die. I can only assume that if most people in this game, could have 7 copies of themselves? Everyone would be an FF XIV GOD.

[Volcano]

Really? You love it when someone assumes you only have one character, so you reply on the very character he was assuming you have? Way to show him. Oh but wait..... "trust me, i have done more then (?) what you actually see"

Not actually sure what you are implying here, you DID read his entire post, right? it was in his response that i had no "endgame" since every fool will just look at a lodestone character and judge accordingly, surely you did not forget that on these forums?

I really don't think his complaints are "none-sense (?)" (nonsense). Considering quite a few people on here are voicing, and supporting, the exact same concerns and complaints.

OF course not, when you agree with him you won't see them as none sense, Most people who don't are actually out, enjoying the game, rather then coming on these forums, in very threads like these, whining that the game is not what they want it to be, whatever personal taste they like, and i am quite sure the supporting number far outweighs the hand full of complaints in this thread.

Also, "I" love it, when someone calls you out on your "achievements". Like it's any indication of your potential at this game when the battles are designed to piledrive your group should any 1 person die. I can only assume that if most people in this game, could have 7 copies of themselves? Everyone would be an FF XIV GOD.

He is saying this game is "so easy" but he him self has not beaten the content that was designed to be hard and test your limits, hypocrite at it's finest. did you forget that as well?

[Tupsi]

He is saying this game is "so easy" but he him self has not beaten the content that was designed to be hard and test your limits, hypocrite at it's finest. did you forget that as well?

I noticed you mentioned Savage Coil - Did you know, Yoshida stated 'Savage Coil' is the Coil they designed that wasn't balanced yet to the point the dev team couldn't even clear it all and thus the version we get on live servers is the balanced (toned down) ones with actual indicators for some stuff?

Citing Savage Coil is funny when you think about it - You cited optional content thrown in as a test while also utilizing the same weekly lockout of Second Coil and is actually shared. There's a large difference between say Fighting Dynamis Lord and Yin/Yang back in 2004 than fighting something where you can randomly just..fall over dead because something killed you you had no idea what.

[Magis]

You clearly do not know the definition of "hard" if you thought that game was anywhere near difficult. im not going into a long dissuction to teach you the difference, But as someone posted above, there is the door if you do not like this game, feel free to go back to wow. where you thought it was hard as a kid.

I'm with Barimu on this one. First, telling him to go back to WoW is as funny as telling a FFXI player to go back to FFXI. Both games have been massively changed since their launches, both going into a casual easy mode (WoW the biggest one of them). While the original WoW pioneered a lot of ways to make MMOs friendlier to players (quest markers, rested exp, etc), it was still a classical "hard" MMO. Leveling and exploration was the main portion of the game early on, the world had a shit ton of open world content where you had to travel (and danger too!), and maybe you don't find it difficult, but the raids themselves were difficult (Razorgore? Kiting 50 mobs, while one person mind controls the boss, and DDs take out casters?) IMO.

That being said, in comparison to FFXI (which I also played) it was the easier of the two games. However looking back, FFXIV ARR doesn't hold a candle to either of those two games in terms of difficulty.

Also cut the "there's the door" BS, if you don't like people complaining about the game.... then don't read these threads? However from the many people in this thread, it seems there ARE issues that people want to see fixed. People can still have gripes with the game yet still enjoy it enough to keep playing.

[Volcano]

Blindly agreeing with him.

Not worth responding to, Except this one part.

That being said, in comparison to FFXI (which I also played) it was the easier of the two games. However looking back, FFXIV ARR doesn't hold a candle to either of those two games in terms of difficulty.

FFXI is a much slower paced game, you don't have to move much, you stand there and mash macros over and over again, not much thinking involved depending on the job you were, so you're right about that at least, it being much easier. which is why he is going back to it. but no, in terms of difficulty the only thing that made that game "difficult" was its slow paced menu based combat. oh don't get me wrong i have lots of fun years, but it not harder in any way. unless camping NMS for hours on end "standing there" was hard. ever camped tiamat? that was pretty difficult, on my sanity.

[Jynx]

"difficult"

Playing "get out of the fire" is more fun?

It's pretty easy to bash a game when you pick it down to it's most simple components. While XI had slower combat it was also at time more strategic (Not in the don't stand infront of the landslides guys) But positioning was just as important as well as things such as MP/TP managment.

You never just "Mashed macros" if you were any good at the game.

FFXIV has it's challenges and faults as well, don't play dumb.

FFXIV is hard in it's own ways as much as XI was hard in some ways.