Olgoi-Khorkhoi, Found it! New Legendary fish you need 3 of for Halycon Rod Supra

[Nyalia]

It is still unknown if there is a fish that can give Fieldcraft Demimateria III. It's very unlikely, but possible, that some rare Big Fish can give it. There are also rumors that Titanic Sawfish can give Mastercraft Demimateria, but I haven't seen confirmation, just a single Japanese screenshot.

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TLDR: It seems there is such a thing as "too much" gathering. At least concerning the Olgoi.

just got my 2nd olgoi now, with 355 gathering

its a strange feeling to lose everything with 378, but get all with <360

[Nyalia]

At 349 gathering, I've hooked four Olgois and caught three of them. Some other fish I've lost every time with my gathering though, like the Lone Ripper... So, either random is random (totally plausible) or there's a sweet spot of optimalness that's different for different tiers of fish.

[KingZeus]

just got my 2nd olgoi now, with 355 gathering

its a strange feeling to lose everything with 378, but get all with <360

i felt the same way months ago getting silver sovereigns. i had maxed out stats, but people far lower than me were getting better HQ catches than i was.

[Adeline]

INC qq soz, I had a bad fishing night

So I started my fishing venture for these casually about 1 week and a 1/2 ago...I went to the spot, and would lose them @ 344-360 gathering. So I decided to take a little break from fishing, and instead make gil to buy my fieldcraft IIIs/mastercraft. I finally was able to buy them all last night, and decided from there to also meld some i70 jewelry to get some more gathering/perception as well, and even made some spinach quiche to get even moar gathering/perc.

Was farming heatwaves last night for about 6 hours (ran into a bunch actually, alot of consecutive heatwaves too). My gather was at 373, 300 Perc (no FC buffz). But ya know wut I got? ALOT OF DISAPOINTMENT (((((

Didn't catch any, lost like 8, and caught a whole lot of eels/hq eels -_- And then this guy in my ls with regular Halcyon rod and 350 gathering (w/food) gets one. It's like "wtf mate".

I feel like I've either melded too much or something, and am just wasting time...I felt like I was wasting time before hand going out there, but it's even worse now. That or I am just extremely unlucky. I know it's RNG but god, I feel like SE is putting secret caps on fish and if you try to push it too hard, you're going to get effed or something.

I also maxed my perc so that I could get higher chance of getting HQ storm rider, but someone in this thread earlier was saying how that's a bad thing? It's like a lose lose situation it seems.

At least last night though in between heatwaves, I managed to spawn the S rank in Fallgourd by fishing up Judgerays

/end qq soz

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the hq cap for storm rider is 15% and I'm pretty sure even with less then 200 perception you can get it with ease, that means theres no point to get any additional perception

if the theory is true: higher perception > bigger fish > harder to catch > more gathering required to get it

but I cant really say if it works that way, sometimes I'ld say yes, sometimes not

[Adeline]

the hq cap for storm rider is 15% and I'm pretty sure even with less then 200 perception you can get it with ease, that means theres no point to get any additional perception

if the theory is true: higher perception > bigger fish > harder to catch > more gathering required to get it

but I cant really say if it works that way, sometimes I'ld say yes, sometimes not

So in theory should I not meld perc at all into my gear? I'm contiplating making a sole 'gathering' only set if thats the case o.o

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thats atleast a theory which somehow explains why ppl with better gear seem to have much worse success rates in fishing them

several ppl who got a supra have never seen an olgoi again

[LlenCoram]

The "more gathering, less perception" is what I've been telling people to do with Silver Sovereigns. There's a definite line you don't want to cross, where the size of the fish is too much for your gathering. It's strange.

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I started some experiments with high gathering/low perception

after 2 heat waves that was the result, after 1 bite



I hadnt the chance to get another bite so far, so I cant say if it was pure luck or not
in the end I got my 3 olgoi with reduced stats