1.17 > 1.18 = 3+ months. 1.18 > 1.19 = ???

[Starlord]

This is what he does. Same as Eorzeapedia. He'll irrationally argue til he is blue in the face and constantly resorts to manipulation tactics and quoting others out of context to fit his argument. It's fine though, really. Gives me someone to play with on this god awfully boring Sunday.

Lol he's not Manipulating me=). I just find the whole thing funny that he pretends to know stuff when he doesn't see the simple true facts.. " I bet you he's going to say, Enlighten me what is this true fact" lolzThe fact is EVERYONE is Content hungry.. We all can agree on that... =)

[Betelgeuzah]

So let's get this straight. You make a thread saying you don't think 1.19 will release on time. You make statements about 1.18 being delayed. We both state the exact same thing in this regard. I make a statement about how they are not moving "fast in comparison", I make a statement about how there is something wrong with the dev cycle, and I make a statement about how it's perfectly acceptable to compare them to other MMO devs.

What are you disagreeing with me about?

You were saying that it shouldn't take this long to get them started on fixing the game. I disagreed.

But frankly it had more to do with your statement limiting their development to few features currently being implemented. Of course if they were to only develop basic AA and shake up enmity it wouldn't take this long.

Either way, for developing many features at once 3 months is a looong time to spend for balancing few of them. Which makes me suspect their QA team is insufficient for the task at hand.

[Shipp]

You sure do blab on and on about stuff you don't know Don't ya /wave to the troll =)

Edit: Also what does any of that have to do with the word "Realism" like Brucey said.. " Quoting stuff Out of Context to what your saying"

I quoted his first sentence because that's all that needed responding to. The point is, NOBODY on this topic knows the SE dev time. I have not bashed SE at all, in fact I've even stated it could be that they're understaffed.

What in the hell are you going on about "realism"? You quoted me, when I stated something was "realistic" and then made a comment about how "realism" is opinionated. I have no idea what you are even talking about other than that.

Do I know SE's inner workings? No. Do I know how to program? Yes. That, "You blab on and on about stuff you don't know" comment applies to literally every single person in this topic, including you. However I do know how to program, and I know it doesn't take near as long to make minor tweaks to a battle system. That is all these are, minor tweaks. Removing the stamina gauge and implementing auto-attack is not a complete overhaul. Battle systems aren't that complex in the first place, mainly just various formulas for every attack, formulas to adjust attack speed based on a weapon's modifier, and formulas to incorporate stat modifiers for everything. This is not rocket science. THAT is what I'm saying could have been done before 7 months.

To say SE hasn't wasted any time is ridiculous. Those quests they implemented that most people said were pointless? Great priorities. SE needs to move more devs to the team and get off the third MMO if they're truly serious about saving this sinking ship. The longer the updates take, the less chance this game has of ever making a come-back.

[ShinChuck]

(Everything Ferth said.)

Thumbs up. I'm sticking around, I'm checking on the game, I'm knocking out some leves from time to time, and I'll even fully admit SE has *some* legitimate excuses. They just don't have blanket ones to entirely excuse everything, and the patch pace needs, needs, needs to pick up, especially post 1.18.

You can't realistically judge a new team on stuff the old team did, especially when we actually haven't seen all that the new team have done yet. It's like you placing the blame on the poor intern who has to clean up the mess of the guy that got fired.

This is not a "new team". Some department heads were moved around, yes, but most of the people working on it are entirely familiar with the code. Most of the people who are working there are indeed the people guilty of launching FFXIV as it was.

Do I hope the new heads make a difference and steer things into the right direction? Absolutely. Is it fair to absolve the XIV team of all guilt? Not by a long shot.

[Starlord]

I quoted his first sentence because that's all that needed responding to. The point is, NOBODY on this topic knows the SE dev time. I have not bashed SE at all, in fact I've even stated it could be that they're understaffed.

What in the hell are you going on about "realism"? You quoted me, when I stated something was "realistic" and then made a comment about how "realism" is opinionated. I have no idea what you are even talking about other than that.

Do I know SE's inner workings? No. Do I know how to program? Yes. That, "You blab on and on about stuff you don't know" comment applies to literally every single person in this topic, including you. However I do know how to program, and I know it doesn't take near as long to make minor tweaks to a battle system. That is all these are, minor tweaks. Removing the stamina gauge and implementing auto-attack is not a complete overhaul. Battle systems aren't that complex in the first place, mainly just various formulas for every attack, formulas to adjust attack speed based on a weapon's modifier, and formulas to incorporate stat modifiers for everything. This is not rocket science. THAT is what I'm saying could have been done before 7 months.

To say SE hasn't wasted any time is ridiculous. Those quests they implemented that most people said were pointless? Great priorities. SE needs to move more devs to the team and get off the third MMO if they're truly serious about saving this sinking ship. The longer the updates take, the less chance this game has of ever making a come-back.

There you go again writing paragraphs with a mindless direction to boot ( yes I didn't read it because all I been seeing were out of place reasoning responses =) its ok we all been there I have too .. ( just didn't write paragraphs...)

[TheVedis]

There you go again writing paragraphs with a mindless direction to boot ( yes I didn't read it because all I been seeing were out of place reasoning responses =) its ok we all been there I have too .. ( just didn't write paragraphs...)

/thwaps star

stop feeding the troll

[Starlord]

/thwaps star

stop feeding the troll

But but.. he's Hungry.... =(

[TheVedis]

But but.. he's Hungry.... =(

let it starve!

[Shipp]

This is what he does. Same as Eorzeapedia. He'll irrationally argue til he is blue in the face and constantly resorts to manipulation tactics and quoting others out of context to fit his argument. It's fine though, really. Gives me someone to play with on this god awfully boring Sunday.

Oh, really? What's your name on Eorzeapedia then?

What manipulation tactics have I thrown around? Or do you just like to use buzzwords to sound as though you're speaking the truth?

I didn't quote anyone out of context. Quoting one line from somebody's post and responding to that one line is not quoting out of context. Like most people who use that excuse, you don't know what quoting out of context means.

This would be quoting out of context:

I knew the place.

From Jennestia. THAT is quoting out of context. It completely loses its meaning. Quoting a statement in its entirety and responding is not out of context.

Lol he's not Manipulating me=). I just find the whole thing funny that he pretends to know stuff when he doesn't see the simple true facts.. " I bet you he's going to say, Enlighten me what is this true fact" lolzThe fact is EVERYONE is Content hungry.. We all can agree on that... =)

I don't pretend to know things I don't. I see a lot of pretending from people who have not acknowledged whether they are programmers (I take this as a big no) that they know the inner workings of the dev team more than anyone else, simply because they're defending them.

Also, you can quit putting words in my mouth. Or you can just troll, either way.

But frankly it was more to do with your statement limiting their development to few features currently being implemented. Of course if they were to only develop basic AA and shake up enmity it wouldn't take this long.

Gotcha. I know they're implementing more than just the battle changes, but those are specifically what I was referring to when making the comment, "It could have been done by now." With everything together, no, you're right. But that kind of goes against what Yoshi said in that quote. I just think that they are understaffed and bit off more than they could chew at once, or like you said, their QA is too small.

[Starlord]

let it starve!

Agreed =) hehe