1.17 > 1.18 = 3+ months. 1.18 > 1.19 = ???

[Shipp]

And you, being a game developer/programmer are in the perfect position to know exactly how long these things take, right?

Actually, being a programmer, yes. Thanks.

[Betelgeuzah]

Actually, being a programmer, yes. Thanks.

All issues together take this long to fix.

Pick out a single feature and you can actually use that argument. Too bad that isn't the reality of the situation.

[Starlord]

Do you honestly believe 1.18 has been worked on only since May?

The trolls aside (at least they keep this thread alive) 1.18 has probably been worked on since January yet it still took 3 months to be implemented from the previous patch. Which is why I'm worried that 1.19 and beyond end up being the same way.



Again, where was it said that the patches come in quicker succession? Nobody has given me an answer thus far.

Becauyse of the fact that A) Patch 1.18 is indeed the Beginning foundation of the game itself and Jan~May was indeed fixing up crap getting things prepared and balanced for Patch 1.18 ( foundation) When you get handed crap of a game.. it will take that long to fix and pick up all the crap that was left behind.

And now since they picked up most/all of the crap.. they are ready to push out the patches/content

And B) they want to make sure that Patch 1.18 ( the Foundation of the games future) is 100% flawless, so that when other Patches get piled up on top of 1.18 the whole game Won't fall apart.

Thats why

As for you wanting to to see where that "Quicker Succession" was at it was said in May I believe. and I don't feel like digging for it ( as TheVedis would say) >.>

[trinta]

I'm sure 1.18~ 1.19 ~1.20 are all being worked on right now as we speak 1.18 is Ready 1.19 probably near completion 1.20 probably half complete

During the course of this game's lifespan, the bolded words have been thrown around entirely too much on the fan forums, and been wrong entirely too often, for me to even consider giving it any weight.

[TheVedis]

As for you wanting to to see where that "Quicker Succession" was at it was said in May I believe. and I don't feel like digging for it ( as TheVedis would say) >.>

damn straight people can learn to use the damn dev tracker

[Shipp]

The problem is that better games haven been overhauled in this timeframe, and it's still not "in order". 1.18 isn't even out yet.

Is there a certain degree of leeway to be afford Square Enix considering this specific situation? Absolutely - a certain degree, but it's by no means a blanket excuse for XIV's state, nor should we, with 1.18 not even out yet and 1.19 likely not launching till a year after the game's release, be giving them kudos like that.

And this is what my main point was. They are being given way too much leeway by certain players. Just because they rushed a horrible game out does not mean that the new team fixing that mess is exempt from criticism.

Do you honestly believe 1.18 has been worked on only since May?

The trolls aside (at least they keep this thread alive) 1.18 has probably been worked on since January yet it still took 3 months to be implemented from the previous patch. Which is why I'm worried that 1.19 and beyond end up being the same way.

This is a main concern of mine too. They keep running into something that keeps delaying them suddenly. Something is wrong with that, be it horrible coding from the devs under Tanaka's instruction or something different entirely. I don't understand why people have faith that all these patches will be implemented by the end of the summer.

[Ferth]

I, for one, don't expect 1.18 to magically make the game great.

Nor am I pretending that SE is completely on track, since the launched product almost a year ago wasn't worth the packaging it came in.

SE's track record for the immediate past is pretty bad, not even counting FFXIV. That's why last year their profits were down so much.

The reality of the situation is that Square Enix as a whole is undergoing changes as they try to fix their financial position, adjust their thinking and practices that lead them there, and try to fix this abomination of a game.

Furthermore, Japan as a nation is still recovering from a pretty cataclysmic event.

None of these are said in the spirit of scapegoating or making excuses. All of them have a legitimate effect on how long it will take to get this game into a working state.

We don't know how big the teams are, we don't know how many people are working on each aspect of each patch. The one thing we do know is that the teams have all undergone pretty heavy staff changes, going through another person's code is tricky business, our impatience on the matter doesn't change that.

You can stand by, scoff and say "excuses!" Personally I agree with the OP. I think this game has been in a terrible state for far too long, and I agree with shipp in that i think some of the minor tweaks and changes they've been wasting time on are worthless in the long run and delaying the changes that need to happen.

Those, too, are part of the reality of the situation. There's no recompense for buying a bad game. Everyone who bought Too Human doesn't get to run to silicon knights and say "You owe us more!"

SE is trying to fix the game, the time frame for the fixes is directly proportionate to how much money they want to spend on it, and from their financial position I'm guessing it's already far more than they wanted to.

I, however, am not in a huge hurry. If they want to keep taking the time to try and make things work, I'm still willing to check in every month or so and see if I like what's changed.

If you aren't, then don't.

[Shipp]

All issues together take this long to fix.

Pick out a single feature and you can actually use that argument. Too bad that isn't the reality of the situation.

Your quote from the mouth (or fingers) of Yoshi-P:

Yoshida: We’ll do our best! (laughs) We have to start with the fundamentals though. If we try to take on everything at once, we won’t be able to release anything at all.

[Starlord]

damn straight people can learn to use the damn dev tracker

Learned from the best >.> lolz

[Betelgeuzah]

As for you wanting to to see where that "Quicker Succession" was at it was said in May I believe. and I don't feel like digging for it ( as TheVedis would say) >.>

Back when 1.18 was supposed to come out in <2 months? Obviously you can say such things before shit falls apart. Now it has taken them a month longer, which was not their original intention, meaning there is a problem unless they work in mysterious ways that makes everything fall into place.

So if they do, they should come out and surprise us. Whatever the forum dwellers feel is meaningless.

Your quote from the mouth (or fingers) of Yoshi-P:

That doesn't mean they aren't working on quite a bit more features than what you mentioned, all at once.