1.17 > 1.18 = 3+ months. 1.18 > 1.19 = ???

[trinta]

What is the expected timeframe to be able to figure out and successfully implement a method to change the wheels on a moving racecar?

Great analogy! Except that they're working on a clone of the racecar. Parked. In a garage.

[SunZhi]

Great analogy! Except that they're working on a clone of the racecar. Parked. In a garage.

More like a clone of the racecar barreling down a hill about to go off a cliff...

[trinta]

More like a clone of the racecar barreling down a hill about to go off a cliff...

Aye. Point is, they're not changing the wheels on a moving racecar.

[SunZhi]

Aye. Point is, they're not changing the wheels on a moving racecar.

Point is, they're trying to fix something that's already been released. Much more difficult to do than prior to having it out on the world stage. Wasn't Yoshi-P's decision to put it out as-is, but he is attempting to fix it... With an audience.

But back to OP: What is a reasonable timeframe to have things either up to snuff or we take our ball and go home?

[trinta]

But back to OP: What is a reasonable timeframe to have things either up to snuff or we take our ball and go home?

Well, when put that way, the answer is going to be different for everyone. Some people left within the first few months, before the big changes started. Others have left since then. I barely play myself, but continue to keep an eye on it, hoping for change for the better. I don't have a specific drop-dead date where I will stop caring. Either it gets going, or it gets shut down, I'll be watching until one or the other happens.

That being said, other games (WoW and Rift) are making major additions to content in the same timeframe. They have ongoing changes to how abilities and game mechanics work. They're in a constant state of rebalancing, and people aren't sitting around in the meantime waiting for the next patch to make things playable (and then saying how *this* patch was just preparing for the *next* one, which will make things playable, no really!). I personally feel that SE should have had more results to show us, well before now.

[Betelgeuzah]

But back to OP: What is a reasonable timeframe to have things either up to snuff or we take our ball and go home?

They need to be able to put out patches as fast as every other developer in the industry.

It's unfair to compare their speed in such a short time-span (there is a difference between changing existing game mechanics and outright replacing them, after all) but my concern is that even when we get to see long-term results, they are still too slow in comparison.

All I hope for is equality. They have an excuse so far, but there will be a day when it's showtime.

[H-P]

Speeding through the creation process is what got us into this mess in the first place.. show some patience. lotta the "fans" on here sound more like haters to me (pointed at no one in this thread!) Yeah it sucks.. it sucks for everyone get over it and grow some patience it's a virtue... an Absolute Virtue!

[syntaxlies]

i dont know about the date but im really excited for 1.19. Chocobos, WS animations, Beast tribe area. Including 1.18 this will be alot of the big things that ive been wanting.