Party member withdrawal spam needs to stop

[Alukah]

They're just trolls.

If people were to stop getting upset over it, they would stop doing it since there's no fun in it anymore.

They aren't trolls and they aren't doing it for fun.

Drops come from specific chests, if the drop they want is at the last chest they will try to get as close to the last boss as possible through a run in progress, most people run ST for oil or UAT so you can guess how many tanks and healers will try to find a run in progress if they want one of those.

[Lucke]

If it's not clear already, the primary reason people do this is they are trying to leech a join in progress (mostly Tower runs) untill SE does something, it's something you have to deal with, i just started not even bothering "accepting" untill it stays up for at LEAST 20 seconds, by that time i know everyone is commited and any withdralws are likely legit afkers. or people who couldn't change jobs in time.

Please do not generalize saying all tanks are "princesses". There are good tanks out there not on ego trips. I'm one of them. I accept the queue when it pops, and people are still spamming withdraw which means that DPS and/or healers do it too.

[Alukah]

Please do not generalize saying all tanks are "princesses". There are good tanks out there not on ego trips. I'm one of them. I accept the queue when it pops, and people are still spamming withdraw which means that DPS and/or healers do it too.

Not all, but most tanks and healers are.

[Souljacker]

But it has to be opt in how can you opt out if you wanted to do a dungeon from start to finish?

By queuing the specific dungeon you want to do. Really, it's that simple. A *random* duty finder should be just that - *random*. Sometimes you get Tam Tara, sometimes you get Stone Vigil. Sometimes you get a fresh party, sometimes you are filtered into a 2\4 because that's where you are needed. You want to do a full run of a dungeon? You can queue that dungeon, or get a party of your friends together. Putting this in a random duty finder was a silly idea no matter how you look at it.

[LineageRazor]

If you were to implement it this way, it would cause people to intentionally time out over and over again, causing you to be held hostage for 45 seconds every time while they spam their queue. I'm all for the incremental penalty approach. Your average player has absolutely no reason to withdraw 3-4 or more times in a short span, so they'll go entirely unaffected, while trolls will be the one to see the penalty.

Deedlit may have a point when it comes to DDs in queue. While a Healer or Tank who times out after the first match really has no excuse not to stick around, a DD who times out is looking at another long wait, at the end of which they certainly may be legitimately afk again. That said, I don't think this would ever be a common scenario, and its benefits certainly don't outweigh the easy abuse it could be put to. As you say, Tanks and Healers will just wait out the timer to avoid penalty, making the situation WORSE - you still have just as much Withdrawl spam, but now instead of half a second between each withdrawl, you have 45 seconds!

More than anything, though, as others have said, they need to stop informing people whether they're joining a run-in-progress or not. Honestly, it's such an enormously terrible idea... If you're queueing up in Duty Finder with the "Join run in progress" button tagged, you're declaring yourself ready to help out on a partial OR full run as you are needed. What possible purpose could there be in seeing what you're about to be added to, except to give you the opportunity to bail?

[Kaisha]

The only thing that will stop it is not showing the "in-progress" anymore.

Or make in-progress tick check for in-progress runs only, so they can enjoy sitting there for 30min in queue with nothing popping up since 50 others on the server will be doing the same.

[Danima]

Or make in-progress tick check for in-progress runs only, so they can enjoy sitting there for 30min in queue with nothing popping up since 50 others on the server will be doing the same.

Lol!!! I really like that idea. To funny...Imagine them all, sitting there and wait for an in-progress-run. Cant stop laughing...best idea ever.

[coldreactive]

Also, when someone withdraws, it counts as a "Successful Run" According to the duty finder. Some people do it to troll the average wait times.

[Darki]

The only thing that will stop it is not showing the "in-progress" anymore. Take the option out and filter people into dungeons as spots are opened like every other game on the planet does. This is precisely the reason Blizzard took it back out when they thought it would be a good idea - people fishing to in-progress runs (and by people, I mean tanks) and withdrawing from fresh ones. Wanting to punish people for using a system is the wrong approach. Fixing the system is the correct approach.

This right here. There is actually a famous quote that goes with this to:

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
― R. Buckminster Fuller

[Riviere]

Or make in-progress tick check for in-progress runs only, so they can enjoy sitting there for 30min in queue with nothing popping up since 50 others on the server will be doing the same.

This is exactly what I think. Why not just make it separate?