Your thoughts on the direction of this game?

[Duelle]

Do ppl realize that the difference between 2.2 or even 2.0 and 2.3 is just a broken system SE released in a rush? the game had no direction then and it has no direction now, and never ever say hunts are a system created to please the old school players, because that's just a lie, the hunt is only appreciated for those who like convenience, of course most will use the false argument of working together...

I get the feeling you weren't there in the beta forums where people were begging for NMs because of FFXI nostalgia. And if I recall there was another thread on these forums sometime after launch asking for the same thing. There have been people asking for it. Don't pretend Hunts were just dropped on our laps out of the blue...even if I did wish the devs would have ignored those individuals.

[Ryel]

I get the feeling you weren't there in the beta forums where people were begging for NMs because of FFXI nostalgia. And if I recall there was another thread on these forums sometime after launch asking for the same thing. There have been people asking for it. Don't pretend Hunts were just dropped on our laps out of the blue...even if I did wish the devs would have ignored those individuals.

Asking for content is not the same as asking for the implementation that the devs chose to use when they went about adding it, or the reward system that came with it.

There's a large difference between "Hey we need more open world content like NMs and such!" and "Hey you should make NMs invalidate 90% of endgame content!"

please lets not sit here and pretend its even close to the same thing.

People keep trying to push how Hunts ended up on the players asking for content to do, as if the developers weren't being paid specifically to deliver content that works

[Renik]

I get the feeling you weren't there in the beta forums where people were begging for NMs because of FFXI nostalgia. And if I recall there was another thread on these forums sometime after launch asking for the same thing. There have been people asking for it. Don't pretend Hunts were just dropped on our laps out of the blue...even if I did wish the devs would have ignored those individuals.

I was and i asked for NMs, but instead they made another faceroll content that is bad balanced in every way, so no, this is not what ppl wanted. This horrendous system we have now is the result of a bad implementation, and it's really far from what ppl wanted.

[Duelle]

I was and i asked for NMs, but instead they made another faceroll content that is bad balanced in every way, so no, this is not what ppl wanted.

Was it one of those "I want NMs in the game" posts without any thought of what it would do to the game? I saw a ton of those, would roll my eyes at them then tried to futilely explain why it's a bad idea in a theme park MMO.

I wouldn't have the issue I have with hunts and NMs if they were a true side activity. Neat titles, vanity gear, vanity pets and so on. Continuously adding stuff to hunt rewards as the game aged. That would actually work while giving people something to do outside of gear progression. Sadly, no one asked for that, and the threads on beta as well as here instead insisted that NMs be an alternate progression route (which necesitated oils and sands entering the picture); in some cases they never specified how they think NMs should have been implemented.

[Renik]

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Seeing oils, sands, and alex on hunts was a surprise, a bad one, i don't think anyone asked for them, and if someone did it was wrong. On the other hand, we are supposed to ask for things we want, not say how they should be implemented, and even if we do SE has already proven they don't want our ideas, they just use their own bad implemented ones. But is this is not enough for you, it seems like i have read the alpha, beta and actual forums more than you because i remember some good ideas for NMs that SE simply decided to ignore.

Now redirect your anger to the dev team, this fail system is their fault, ppl would ask for NMs and open world sooner or later, but they decided to implement it this way.

[Yukiko]

I get the feeling you weren't there in the beta forums (..)

There are still some things left we had in BETA who are not implemented yet... I guess low priority.
It is a bit strange, but since Yoichi Wada gone something changed... It feels like they try to be cheap.
I liked Wada!