Rogue's 2nd job

[silentwindfr]

dancer will be better from pugilist actually but well... who know

[Axeus]

Dancer would be no worse than Scholar, with maybe Ninja's 'kata' mechanic redone as Steps, with Step combinations performing various buffs, debuffs and heals.

Kata? You mean Mudra? Sorry had to get that out of the way first.

Second you miss my point. Not all Classes can be taken to a second job, sure if they use the mechanic that is already currently in place sure a Job can be made of it. But the thing is that's not always a possibility unless new classes are made with these said split mechanics in mind. IF they aren't then it's not possible, I think a melee based healer coming from a class that is MOSTLY DoT based (based on our current knowledge that is), unless changing the DoT skills to HoT, would make a lack luster healer.

Yet again scholar is strong not only because of the skills they get when they change, but the fact their summon changes and adds a few more skills, plus their cross class skills from conjurer and they can definitely do well.

[Odd]

I'm actually hoping they rethink giving classes two jobs. I really don't like how ACN is now, where I can only be a master of either SCH or SMN, or mediocre at both. Those 30 points make a big difference.

I'm not against Dancer's though, I do hope we seem them at some point!

[mbncd]

[Snip] IF they aren't then it's not possible, I think a melee based healer coming from a class that is MOSTLY DoT based (based on our current knowledge that is), unless changing the DoT skills to HoT, would make a lack luster healer.[Snip]

This really got my imagination racing o.o

What if there was something like cleric stance but rather than switching stats it switched the effect of actions to be either offensive or healing?

The great combatants need to know a lot about the body, how their own body works and how to strike the opponent in the right place to do the most damage. It strikes me that that sort of knowledge could be used for good as well. Wouldn't it be fun to (for instance) punch someone within an inch of their life and then be able to heal them right back up again with a slight alteration to technique brought on by a different stance or going for slightly different pressure points or whatever? Or daggers slicing and dicing one minute, then doing some complex surgery the next?

That sounds very interesting to me and I'm not even a big fan of combat o.o

[Karnyboy]

I cringe every time I see the word Rogue - Yoshi-P's words echo in my mind "Just think thief!"

Still very disappointed they are determined on this direction.

And gosh I hope it's not going to be a stealth class. I hated rogues in pvp in other games.

I don't and I've been playing FF games longer than you I can bet that.

[Freyt]

I still don't get why everyone is upset about "Rogue" being "Thief" when "Marauder" is "Fighter", "Pugilist is "Monk" and "Monk" is "Black Belt".

I just don't even care about "Rogue" anymore. At least there are reasons. Because who wants to be associated with thieves even. Because Thancred had only 1 dagger for this whole time and is a Ninja supposed to go from 1 to 2 daggers or something? There are reasons.

[lololink]

I just don't even care about "Rogue" anymore. At least there are reasons. Because who wants to be associated with thieves even. Because Thancred had only 1 dagger for this whole time and is a Ninja supposed to go from 1 to 2 daggers or something? There are reasons.

Thancred now, is a gladiator, but when he was with the rogues he used two daggers, when he went to Ul'Dah he used only one as every other gladiators.

[TheCurls]

Well, I ask you this, then. What makes a Scholar think it can compete with a White Mage? White Mage excels at healing because conjurer excels at healing. It's what they do. Scholar starts as a DD with 1 heal and 1 self heal in arcanist. Discounting the self heal this leaves Scholar with 6 healing actions, with Leeches being level 40 (seriously, why isn't it level 35). Have to discount cross-class as that'd be what unifies the three Jobs. Dancer would be no worse than Scholar, with maybe Ninja's 'kata' mechanic redone as Steps, with Step combinations performing various buffs, debuffs and heals. I can totally see it.

I don't know why you think Scholar can't compete with White Mage. That's silly talk, and this is coming from a White Mage main.

[Gilraen]

I don't know why you think Scholar can't compete with White Mage. That's silly talk, and this is coming from a White Mage main.

It was just a counter argument to the, "What makes you think Dancer can compete with Scholar or White Mage?" If Scholar can compete with White Mage, then so could Dancer if the devs do it right (like they did with Scholar).

[ShinigamiKayla]

As rogue is dagger class, and FF Dancers use daggers, I plead the Twelve about Dancer being the 2nd job of Rogue!

itll probaly be thief but i wish it was dancer ;x