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  1. #61
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Abyss King
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    People always forget that Holy comes with a stun effect. And when enemies are chain stunned, they can't fight back. In this instance, the healer may have been right.
    Stun that get's in the way of my own rotation as PLD; same when I ask my Monk friend not to use his stun skills so I can manage the mobs abilities, and he can dish out DPS.

    First stun (not counting low-lvl dungeons) 6 sec, next 3, last 1, then resist. When a WHM uses Holy, The first one will be used for about 4sec, then next one will overlap, then third one.. hmm.

    So for me it's more about the nice damage it does, when everyone is safe from harm, it gets the mobs to be killed faster.

    I understand that Healing can be boring for some. They can DPS when everything else is covered, not counting if other ones knows what they are doing to complement them.

    Like my HG Macro that tells my WHM mate he can go all out since I have 10 sec of invulnerability, and he saves his benediction right after it.

    No matter which class/job you play, it's how you know the other one's roles and then you can fit in, for everyone to get that kill down and instance completed.

    The more you play all role, the more it makes you get into their shoes, and then you can stop bashing if you are only DPS for example.

    Everyone will make mistakes (Me first ^^) ; all that comes down to it is that if you ended up with a success, within the time limit.

    @Nyne: Love your sig - so true!!! ^^
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  2. #62
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    Impulse Fabulous
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis-xyx View Post
    I understand your miseries OP. There's always a constant battle between doing right and wrong with people in this game. Somewhat related note: was in a high level roulette the other day and got yelled at for dpsing on my whm when there was no healing to be done, completely put me down for it. Next dungeon I got into I got yelled at for doing the exact opposite; not dpsing enough. There's just no wining with people. Play how you want and ignore everyone else.
    THIS!!!^

    I'm sick and tired of this good and bad player bullshit. It's starting to look like people getting in their feelings when someone doesn't play the way they want, really. My attitude towards these threads and this cummunity is fuck it. I'll still be the nice guy and give you what you need but I'm soo over this bs back and forward..

    At to this point, if I do something wrong or make a mistake... make a thread and cry about it.
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    Last edited by Venos; 08-05-2014 at 04:16 AM.

  3. #63
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Foe Requiem increases the damage of summoner and scholar dots, white mage's holy and all of black mage's spells.
    And Stone, and Aero. Not like WHM only has Holy to DPS with. >_>
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  4. #64
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post

    WHM goes low into MP - Mage's Ballad - He laughed and told me it's useless.
    Well, of course, Mage's Ballad isn't useless. But I dislike when a bard plays it for my SCH. I never tell them to stop because it's not a big deal, but they're only wasting time. Basically, SCH should never run out of mana even while DPSing/in SCoB. Get low, yes. Run out, no. I can solo heal most things without ever feeling like I'm "scrapping the bottom of the barrel". Admittedly, I've never solo healed t7, 8 or 9. I've always had my partner for them, but I have solo'd t6.
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  5. #65
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I just power leveled my bard and became lv 50 with zenith and ilv 90 gear in justma few days.

    I have no idea what I'm doing and I just press buttons to dps. Since I used to main as a whm I always make sure to mage ballad if they are below 50 perdent mp.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    And Stone, and Aero. Not like WHM only has Holy to DPS with. >_>
    I don't believe it increases stone and aero. I remember testing this way back in 2.0 and there was no increase.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I just power leveled my bard and became lv 50 with zenith and ilv 90 gear in justma few days.

    I have no idea what I'm doing and I just press buttons to dps. Since I used to main as a whm I always make sure to mage ballad if they are below 50 perdent mp.
    Always keep straight shot, flaming arrow and your dots up. Don't refresh the dot till it's about to fall off. Heavy shot when straight shot isn't proced. Use bloodletter in between global cooldowns.

    Always use hawk's eye, blood for blood and barrage simultaneously. Use internal release before applying dots. Use raging strikes whenever it comes up.
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  8. #68
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Abyss King
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Well, of course, Mage's Ballad isn't useless. But I dislike when a bard plays it for my SCH. I never tell them to stop because it's not a big deal, but they're only wasting time. Basically, SCH should never run out of mana even while DPSing/in SCoB. Get low, yes. Run out, no. I can solo heal most things without ever feeling like I'm "scrapping the bottom of the barrel". Admittedly, I've never solo healed t7, 8 or 9. I've always had my partner for them, but I have solo'd t6.
    That is correct, hence why I didn't mention anything pertaining SCH.

    I play all Jobs, and then I made choices as per the ones I prefer. So even if I stopped playing and getting gear for all (I'll still finish getting all my zeniths, just need 4500 more myth) But for me I prefer SCH vs WHM. I just love to have pets around, same with SMN vs BLM. (Lucky for me, GF loves BLM, so we can complete each other ^^)

    So yes, Ensuring healer would not get out of mana when you don't know him and his style of play like PUGs = safe heals = no one dies = WIN.

    He tells you he prefer Foe Requiem? So be it. If you guys wipe.. well, you know it ain't because of me lol

    As lots stated: no matter what you will do, with every jobs, someone will complain, so just stick to what you love doing, unless it's obvious (like tanking as BLM when Mountain Buster is coming)

    Even so, some wants Blue Mage to be able to tank.. (now please don't get started on this, there is a diff thread for it ^^)

    If you fit in your role, and then as a party of 4-8, you still get the job done, and are having fun... I'll sing an ode to praise your worthy effort, "Heroes Of Eorzea"!!
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  9. #69
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    Tahlato Dakwhil
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    Malboro
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    Armorer Lv 57
    @OP - Good job posting this, I think it's very helpful for people to understand, those that can/are able to understand, that there is always at least three sides to a story!

    Theirs, yours, and what they consider the truth.
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    I am a winner, even though I sometimes fail.

  10. #70
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I don't believe it increases stone and aero. I remember testing this way back in 2.0 and there was no increase.
    It does, it works on pretty much every attack a DoM has. And it's just a flat % increase to the damage of those abilities. It's not really a resist debuff. For a while, early on, Requiem was bugged and only worked on unaspected abilities, like ACN spells. That was fixed a while back though.
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