So I just finished leveling ARCANIST to 15 to be a Black Mage...

[Defteros]

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ACN cross class are more of a support-type.
Archer, instead, help you boost significantly your DPS, and prevent you from pulling 2/3 of a dungeon's trash mobs from the tank.

that aside.
if you have a Summoner/Scholar in your party, a BLM virus is less useful, so you rarely use it ( if the others know how and when to use it)
dunno if SMN/SCH have something like enhached E4E though, can't remember.

Archer Cross Class are
numerically less, but are 100 times more useful then the Arcanist Cross Class

[Ilenya]

As I recall, Enhanced E4E just decreases recharge time.

[Tsuwu]

There's a simple reason why blm requires archer instead of arcanist. Arcanist didn't exist until 2.0.

1.0 required PGL, not ARC.
-has a BLM on Balmung that's got a level 0 ARC-

[Moirear]

This happened to me too, because honestly, ARC sounds like ARCanist, and since you're building a spellcasting class, it would seem like the only thing that makes sense.

But once you realize how they arranged all classes to complement others in jobs, it makes sense that they didn't want to load too many job pre-requisites onto the same classes; also, you're really going to appreciate the level 34 cross-class skill from Archer in the endgame content.

[Moirear]

if you have a Summoner/Scholar in your party, a BLM virus is less useful, so you rarely use it ( if the others know how and when to use it)
dunno if SMN/SCH have something like enhached E4E though, can't remember.

That's true.

Eye for an Eye gets a reduced cooldown time trait from the ACN class.

[Defteros]

That's true.

Eye for an Eye gets a reduced cooldown time trait from the ACN class.

still, I only see scholar/summoners only using it at the start of a boss fight, and then forgot it even exists.
so, nothing different xD

[Surian]

I for one am glad it's Archer as a requirement (and thus as a cross-class).

I wouldnt want to be a BLM without Raging Strikes and Quelling Strikes.

[Ilenya]

To be fair, Eye for an Eye is better for pulls and trash mobs.

[Vinroke]

Uh okay, I was coming more from the PoV of someone who just started leveling a caster or just started the game, not someone who is used to end game caster stuff...

I mean the quest that requires THM 30 and ARC 15 is not going to be done by someone who raids with BLM.

Apologies if my commment seemed hostile, I'm simply tired of people who have both at 50 and yet somehow still confuse ACN/ARC it's almost as if they simply don't bother to read their gear abbreviations. ACN isn't a waste for BLM though, Physick is a semi-decent self-heal for emergencies, e4e is great on chain pulls or when a boss is readying spike-aoe (titan tumults)

[Dark-Saviour]

The same logic that made Archer turn into Bard.

And made mathemagicians into biomancer's/cabbit summoners. The latter of which is treated like, "Obviously this is the pinnacle of our art. Because reasons."
And turned conjurers that focused on elemental spells into healers.
And turned thaumaturges, that supposedly focus on manipulation of aether within an individual, into elementalists.

And then there's the whole "Scholars has faeries for some reason, so having a faerie makes you a scholar, ya know?"

Honestly, the way the lore/class descriptions are written, basically...
Conjurers should have been closer to what thaumaturges currently are.
Arcanists in their current form are more like what thaumaturges should be, or, in a pinch, thaumaturges could have become healers.
And the summoning ability arcanists have doesn't really suit anything.

Long story short, don't try to make sense of classes and jobs too much. They just kind of end up being whatever SE wants them to be, because "why not"?