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  1. #51
    Player
    Mamba's Avatar
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    Lily Spider
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    ...........I don't even know how to reply to this one
    Well, imo WHM should always have a reserve to cast at least one heal as they are healers in the end of the day but I don't know what you had to say about it as you don't know how to write it. Cheers for the useless reply though

    (And PS. I actually liked your OP, you brought up some valid points)
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    There is a little Monkey in all of us....

  2. #52
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I have a macro on WHM for Manasong. Spam macro...no Ballad. See BRD with full mana, trying to ignore the fact that the tank is dying too fast cause I had to rez two of the other DPS and our other Heal...

    Also have a Paeon macro for my melee...oh look, BRD has no mana cause we have a SCH as our healer and Foe's is up while we try to AoE...I see this too often, guess no one got the memo that resistance down debuffs (Dis, DK, Foe's, Eye) don't affect DoTs...(EDIT: This is also why I don't really care if Foe's isn't up for a lone SMN with other Phys DPS in a PUG/DF. Rather save the BRD's mana in case the fight goes bad and healers get near OoM rezing than boosting Fester damage by 20%...)
    Except that Foe's Requiem actually applies for Summoner's DoT if Requiem is on the target before the DoT's application ?

    No wonder that almost no bards sings Requiem if most of them think like you do.
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  3. #53
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    guess no one got the memo that resistance down debuffs (Dis, DK, Foe's, Eye) don't affect DoTs...(EDIT: This is also why I don't really care if Foe's isn't up for a lone SMN with other Phys DPS in a PUG/DF. Rather save the BRD's mana in case the fight goes bad and healers get near OoM rezing than boosting Fester damage by 20%...)
    Foe's affects DoTs if you use it before they start casting DoTs.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail View Post
    What's the matter op? Is there anything wrong with what I said? Does it bother you? Please I beg of you let me know instead of doing something original like responding with a gif. If you don't get any of said things I would gladly explain it.

    Wanna hear a plot twist? My main is my whm. I've had my share of bad bards, tanks, healers, you name it.
    Why are you being so defensive? It's not like they are calling out all Bards. Yes there are bad players for every role, but this thread is specifically about Bards who never play songs.
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    Last edited by Alukah; 08-03-2014 at 06:37 PM.

  4. #54
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    Volcano's Avatar
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    As a main WHM MP is only an issue when spam raising, or solo healing in aoe heavy fights, like EX Titan or levi. as examples. keep in mind ballad DOES lower BRDs already weak DPS. SO you are asking them to give up a lot for situational issues, If you see a lone WHMs mp very low on MP you ballad as if they cannot heal you cannot win, at that point dps does not matter if no one will be alive soon.

    In other words Use commen sense, shaking your fist at a brd telling me "sing me songs grrr!" isn't going to help much, most of the time a bard never has to ballad me and we get along fine, because i don't mindlessly drain my mp over curing.

    Foes on the other hands, that is something i see BRDs doing if most of the DPS are BLM.
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  5. #55
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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail View Post
    Nah I get plenty of hugs already. I'm quite a cheerful and lovable person. Can't you tell?

    No. /10Chars
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  6. #56
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    Zanmatou Garlant
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    Shiva
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Only Thing to say about this Thread,like every other Thread where People play bad:
    This Casual Game is not casual enough for Casuals.
    Because People obviously cant read their Skill Descriptions and comprehend.Everything's so easy in this Game..but like always:Weak People make it hard for you ~.~
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  7. #57
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    It truly is amazing. Did ST last night on blm with my blm guildie, tons of bards, no requiem. Even after we repeatedly asked for it.

    I'm of the impression there are a number of different types of bards:

    1) I play bard because I like archer, and I dont know ( or maybe like to ignore ) the fact it is a support class. Wtf are songs-bards.

    2) I play bard to do crazy damage, why should I waste 2 seconds to raise casters dps, it will waste my own dps time!. Delusional bards.

    3) that I/100 who sings. the 1/200 who turns off requiem after pulls. the 1/1000 who uses battle voice (!)

    Bards have terribad dps ( imo ) if they aren't supporting. Me and a friend were messing with the ol' abicus recently, was surprised to see sch pulling out 220 dps ( i90 ), and this isn't a hundred miles away from bards dps. It's worth requieming the sch, so why not requiem the godam blms and smns pulling 400+ dps?

    the conclusion has been reached, 99% of bards don't sing.
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  8. #58
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Both healers have ways to get mp back. In many parties you won't have a bard. With proper mp management you will never need ballad. A lot of bards do not want to use ballad because it lowers their damage by 20%. Proper MP management should be used instead of asking for ballad.
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  9. #59
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    Jesse Branford
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Both healers have ways to get mp back. In many parties you won't have a bard. With proper mp management you will never need ballad. A lot of bards do not want to use ballad because it lowers their damage by 20%. Proper MP management should be used instead of asking for ballad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Proper MP management should be used instead of asking for ballad.
    The only scenario in which I feel a ballad is truly needed is after +3 deaths, with SoS & x-ethers on CD. I get embarrassed if I was personally dead and hope SoS would be sufficient but usually a kind bard plays a ballad for me.

    Ballad wouldn't have been implemented if there wasn't a need for it at all.
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