Dev please change market board

[ColeSlawter]

Only real thing that bugs me with the mb is people not understanding selling in bulk vs individual or smaller stacks and cause prices to needlessly drop. Some people need a stack of 99 items and list at lower per unit price, but much higher total price. Other people need only a stack of 10, 5, or 1. For these people they can pay a higher unit price but lower total cost. There is no reason for someone listing a single item to compete with the stack 99 unit price and then undercut them.

Also, wth hell is with undercut for first sell when items are listed in different cities? Depending what region you buy in it may be cheaper to buy the "higher" priced item after SE takes tax.

[Errors]

Anyone who believe that the FFXI Auction House didn't have undercutting is delusional. It happened/happens all the time. Even with not knowing what the prices people are listing items at.

[Tupsi]

Anyone who believe that the FFXI Auction House didn't have undercutting is delusional. It happened/happens all the time. Even with not knowing what the prices people are listing items at.

It didn't have undercutting in the traditional sense as it's blind bidding, nothing was "set in stone" unless pretty much every crafter "agreed" on that price or people who gathered the item. The only time things undercut is when people tried to sell new items for 4-9 million which made absolutely no sense beyond greed.

I put up an Adaman Kilij for 700k
You put up one for 230k
Buyer buys it for 700k - Yours sells over mine but the item is still valued at 700k, however the buyer can also try 230k and buy it for that price, thus the "undercut."

[Felessan]

I'm more inclined to have search fixed to search for any part of string and not only from beginning...

I'm so tired of how market board works people being able to see your price listen every 1-5 minutes someone undercutting you driving price even lower. Example is Mahi Mahi place up 2k some ass sides to undercut by 1000 placing it to 800. So for weeks my stuff won't sell unless I go lower become the new price. So please Dev change it! I tired of undercutting of this level

This is a nature of free market. When you understand concepts like price wars, cyclical nature of supply/demand in most sold goods, concept of liquidity - your trading will be much more successful)

I'm also tired that everything. EVERYTHING I collect is always damn useless because the next week it is already reduced by half already.

And if you leave it at 2x current price it'll be sold 2 weeks later. This is how free market works.

Actually it would reduce the undercutting by a great deal because the price is hidden, and people would only go off the price history. Frankly, I feel that the market could thrive a great deal more this way.

We saw it already (in FF11) - this would just lead to "auction bots" which just get the real offer prices through automated process. And would harm general community as only few will rip all the profits.

[Baneus]

750k
750k
749k
730k
730k
400k
221k
220k
180k

That's not competition

It's pretty much the definition of competition. The definition doesn't change because people don't like the game :P

[Assirra]

The only change the MB needs is that you can directly post stuff on their instead of looking up prices, writing them down, going to your retainer, posting the items one by 1 when looking at your list.

[KarmaCha]

The market is not made to be fair. people can charge whatever they want for their items. That is the nature of a free market. Other players don't owe it to you to help you make gil because you posted it first. I undercut when putting up every single listing. Learn to play the game or stop complaining.

[AerysDarkstrike]

The market board works well. It's quite buyer-friendly, which is a plus.

[JayCommon]

The good thing about this - you can see who's trying to destroy markets by 'massively undercutting for zero reason other than to destroy a market.

I'm sorry but there is still nothing good about this whatsoever except for community grief and/or personal attacks. What can you hope to accomplish by knowing this information? You can't forcibly stop the person from selling said item at whatever price they want. You can't report them for selling something at a low price, but you can possibly get yourself reported by being tempted to ruffle some feathers and sending personal attacks. Hell if they are doing it "just to destroy the market with zero reason" then they are probably a massive troll and you will just help them get their rocks off if you say anything to them.


Markets will stabilize, anyway. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have seen Savage Aim 3 materia being sold for less than 5k per piece, and the next day it going for upwards of 40k per piece. "Market destruction" is rarely permanent. I refer back to the 2nd quote of my 1st post in this thread.


And what if you make, say, a Tidal/Levin barding or a crafting station for someone and they tip you well, but then "destroy" the market because they got all the expensive mats via retainer/gardening? No one is going to know that retainer isn't yours, they are just going to see the crafter name on the item itself. Now someone is destroying the market and your name at the same time.


Sorry, I just don't like that aspect of the MB. I love seeing people walking around in gear I made, it's almost like walking advertisements I just don't see any upside to showing crafter's name on the MB.

[Theresa]

I like the market board system. Have you ever played another MMO?