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    Inzoum's Avatar
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    Inzoum Zimia
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    Masamune
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    Suggestion - Atma and desynthesis

    I'm sure you are well aware of the difficulty some players have with obtaining Atma for their Relic upgrade. This is getting increasingly difficult because most players have already finished this phase of their Relic upgrade and have moved on, leaving the last unlucky few (as well as new players) to tackle FATEs mostly on their own. The process is much lenghtier than it used to be due to lack of participants.

    I'm aware that increasing drop rates for Atmas in FATEs might produce situations where luckier players would accumulate Atmas beyond what they need, but this is where my suggestion comes in:

    Increase the drop rate for Atmas but also make them Desynthable at a high level (70-90). Use this to solve another problem: the ridiculous amount of Fieldcraft III Demimateria required to upgrade crafting and gathering tools to Supra (10 per tool? seriously? Mastercraft Demimateria are easier to obtain and you only need 3 per tool).

    Excess Atmas could be Desynthed by any crafting class (or select crafting class if you prefer), and could yield Crystals and Clusters most of the time, and on rare occasion Fieldcraft III Demimateria, which are too rare and costly for most players.

    This would *slightly* ease the demand for both Atmas and Fieldcraft III Demimateria, while still keeping the means to obtain Demimateria confined to Desynthesis, and it would get players back in FATEs again.
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    K'rina Sato
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    That's not a bad idea.

    Another thought that's been bouncing around my FC and Linkshell is the idea that maybe you could work towards your ATMA regardless of your class level. You'd still have to have a level 50 with relic and all that to unlock it of course, but at the very least the time would be more productively spent and feel a little less like the tedious grind from hell. Something like that would even inspire me to care about upgrading another relic once I got another job to 50.

    I realize that only has relevance if you still have alternate classes to level up, but the majority of the people I know are in this boat, so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that it could be a benefit to most. And, personally, I would be very happy to see the number of things I have to grind dropped a little. We have a lot of those things as it is, and 2.4 will see us get more. A little love in this area would be much appreciated. :P
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    I really hate that I can't do squat on my other classes because I'm stuck farming atma. I'd love to be able to at a min change to a non 50 level job and grind the atma so I get Xp also. Doing fates for seals, very little coin, and no Xp SUCKS SE.
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    Yes! Thank you! My thoughts exactly!
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    Nico Nico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    ... make them Desynthable ...
    Good, and please include alex. , too.
    Moreover, if you think it could be Desynthed by any crafting class,
    then it should not be desynthable at a high level (70-90), it should be desynthable at the beginning (skill 1.0) ^^;
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    Hey there,

    Atma are special items that are utilized as part of the Zodiac weapon quest and as such we do not have plans of using them in other content such as desynthesis.
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    Colby "Grekumah" Casaccia - Community Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Hey there,

    Atma are special items that are utilized as part of the Zodiac weapon quest and as such we do not have plans of using them in other content such as desynthesis.
    Dude really? Out of ALL the complaints and suggestions regarding the craptastic feature that is ATMA. THIS is the one you (representing the dev team of course) response to?!

    Might as well put on some white gloves while you slap all of us across the face. At least, there's a tad of dignity to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skho01 View Post
    Dude really? Out of ALL the complaints and suggestions regarding the craptastic feature that is ATMA. THIS is the one you (representing the dev team of course) response to?!

    Might as well put on some white gloves while you slap all of us across the face. At least, there's a tad of dignity to it.
    Why do people keep whining in situations like these? Do you really need the development team to keep repeating that they have no plans (at the moment) to do anything to the atma drop rate? By your logic they're not allowed to mention anything else about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skho01 View Post
    Dude really? Out of ALL the complaints and suggestions regarding the craptastic feature that is ATMA. THIS is the one you (representing the dev team of course) response to?!

    Might as well put on some white gloves while you slap all of us across the face. At least, there's a tad of dignity to it.
    Devs please don't respond to this message I'll save you the time and link them to a previous response regarding to this situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    While you may not find this topic "worthy" of an official answer, that doesn't mean that the person that started the thread or the others that showed support agree. If we receive answers on a subject, we feel that it's a worthy of a reply. We'll continue to try and get responses on a wide range of topics as we go forward, just as we have always done.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2234896
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    sorry airget gotta disagree with re-posting that. Atma drops have been the BIGGEST controversy with very few comments from devs, without so much as a "No we are not increasing atma drop rate THIS patch" The vast community would like a response and instead get something like this. The other option is that they have been slowly increasing drop rates and dont want to tell people hey we really messed up so this is us fixing it. I have seen a lot more people cheering about how they are getting atma's more and more and no i don't believe they "just" won at rng. If they did, be nice if they just came out and said so.
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