I hope this clears up some of the Rogue>Ninja rage

[Souljacker]

I know people mentioned Limsa, but Ul'Dah actually seems well suited for Thieves, considering the mass amounts of money circulating in that place.

I actually thought that Thancred was alluding to something just like this in the storyline - you know after we saw the Doman fighter for 3 seconds and then had to have our eyes bleed as Thancred flipped around the screen for a full 20 minutes stealing her thunder? Really SE, why do you keep trying to redeem that weakling? Any why did we have to watch HIM flip around instead of the mysterious character we are all interested in learning more about?

I agree that Uldah would be the place for a thieves\assassins guild and it would be a secret organization.

As for why people are up in arms, for the final time I will explain: the more they try to NOT be Final Fantasy, the worse the game gets. 1.0 failed because it wasn't Final Fantasy, it was some other generic grind that didn't even make sense and no one recognized. Moving back to more of the same is counterproductive. What Yoshi-P really should do is leave the current class\jobs as they are, but going forward make each job its own from start to finish. There is no reason we need Rogue to evolve into Ninja or Thief or anything at all. Rogue can be its own class from start to finish. Ninja can be its own class from start to finish. Same with Thief, if they ever decide to get their heads out of their asses and give the players what they truly want.

There is no need for all of this "I was once this but I am now that and I have 2 level 50's listed in my character screen but I will only ever use the Job anyway". It's such a waste.

[Sylentmana]

I didn't realize people were upset about the new class/job. I'm really excited about it myself. Think about it. You start in Limsa so you could claim to be or have been a pirate. Later you become a Ninja. Someone please tell me, what in this wide world is better than being a pirate-ninja. Personally, there is so much awesomeness wrapped up in one package that I not be able to keep my head from exploding. That is the real problem right there.

[Souljacker]

I didn't realize people were upset about the new class/job. I'm really excited about it myself. Think about it. You start in Limsa so you could claim to be or have been a pirate. Later you become a Ninja. Someone please tell me, what in this wide world is better than being a pirate-ninja. Personally, there is so much awesomeness wrapped up in one package that I not be able to keep my head from exploding. There is the real problem right there.

It's mostly those of us who are older and crotchety - those of us that played as thieves for the better part of a decade and grew up on this franchise. Its thief. It's not ROUGE.

[Kallera]

Forget it. I'm going to Vegas, but that is it for me. I'm not playing this "its Thief in your head!" nonsense Yoshida spewed.

[Exstal]

there's one in very nearly every FF game.

I do believe it was said that Thief doesn't need to be in this game because it's a stand-alone.

it remains to be seen whether SE will buckle under all the whining.

I expect them to hold until they've gotten other more important jobs out of the way, otherwise they are going to screw something up mighty.

Same with Thief, if they ever decide to get their heads out of their asses and give the players what they truly want.

Players don't know jack shit. They don't know what they want. You can listen to them, but they only cry and whine on things they *might* want and when you don't deliver it perfectly, they'll cry and whine that you've screwed it all up.

[Xandim]

Someone please tell me, what in this wide world is better than being a pirate-ninja.

Robogeishas..... robogeishas beat the c*** out of pirate-ninjas =P

[Kuwagami]

It's mostly those of us who are older and crotchety - those of us that played as thieves for the better part of a decade and grew up on this franchise. Its thief. It's not ROUGE.

ROUGE Class :



ROGUE Class :



seriously one is a color

sorry, couldn't help posting that about that rouge nonsense.

[Sylentmana]

It's mostly those of us who are older and crotchety - those of us that played as thieves for the better part of a decade and grew up on this franchise. Its thief. It's not ROUGE.

I'm 27. I've played every Final Fantasy out there and I don't see what the big deal is with not having the same name. A Rogue and a Thief is essentially the same thing anyway. Names of classes don't dictate what a Final Fantasy is or how it should feel. There is much more to it than that.

[Phyllo]

Really SE, why do you keep trying to redeem that weakling? Any why did we have to watch HIM flip around instead of the mysterious character we are all interested in learning more about?.

Ahahah weakling ahahah .... Ok so to you, just because he got manipulated by an ascian he is weak? You're the only person who cannot be manipulated by them, does that mean everybody are weaklings?

Cuz if I remember well... He is the one who took care of the gobbue when it broke free in the v1 uldahn parade, as you are not supposed to exist there at that time, he and the gang fought against gaius while you are watching helplessly and might have won if not for the agrius nuke, still in v1.
Now in v2, he was the one who was fighting the voidsent not you, you were just keeping the small fry busy and that may be one of the rare occasion you see him fight but he actually way stronger than you think.
all archons are pretty much at the same level, just because yoshida turned us into 1st class godlike anomaly doesn't mean that the rest are weaklings.

Also, Yugiri will be back for 2.4 with her dojo so she'll have plenty screen time.

And for the last time... Give up. Rogue are in limsa it already has been officially confirmed >_>

From the lodestone

Lurking in the shadows, adhering to no laws but their own, they punish the wicked, pilfering their ill-gotten gains and delivering them to the downtrodden masses. Thought by many to be mere common criminals, some would say they play an unseen hand in maintaining order in the buccaneer's haven of Limsa Lominsa.

Some people either don't know when to give up or simply don't know how to read...

[Surian]

I'm 27. I've played every Final Fantasy out there and I don't see what the big deal is with not having the same name. A Rogue and a Thief is essentially the same thing anyway. Names of classes don't dictate what a Final Fantasy is or how it should feel. There is much more to it than that.

It's not about the name. It's that Thief/Rogue is a "class" and therefor weaker as Ninja which is a "Job" and in this game that means it's essentially an upgrade without any downside to it. Where as playing Thief/Rogue as a class will make your character inheritly weaker due to a lack of abilities and the stats the job crystal gives.