I hope this clears up some of the Rogue>Ninja rage

[Gaddes]

I'd love for you to prove that all of those lovely thieves in previous FF lore were not also Rogues.

Again, my original post was not even referring to rogues or the rogues vs thief thing, but rather my frustration with their excuses that a Thief character "wouldn't work" in the context of this game, followed by an example of how the writing could allow for it to work in the game's world.

But anyway... unrelated to what I was actually talking about, if you want to go ahead and call all the thieves in past FF games "rogues that steal" as you seem so hell-bent on doing, knock yourself out. They're still classified as thieves. And for those saying that a Thief Guild wouldn't be allowed or whatever, my assumption was always that the Thief Guild would be a secret one, not like the other guilds that are out in the open. Maybe a secret password/code/etc to tell thieves apart from regular folk, a secret Thief Guild hideout that's hidden away, that sort of thing. Granted I played a lot of the Quest for Glory series back in the day, and that series' Thieves Guild always was a secretive, elite and shady organization. I know people mentioned Limsa, but Ul'Dah actually seems well suited for Thieves, considering the mass amounts of money circulating in that place.