Hunts are the best thing to happen to XIV's community since launch

[ispano]

Really? Resetting the mob is seen as a very good thing on my server. It allows more people to get credit. It's certainly not looked at as griefing, quite the opposite.

It's griefing 100%. B ranks were not meant for everyone and their mother on the server to gang up on. That's more in line with an S rank, and even then there are still too many people. We had this issue early on with FATE mobs, people would continually reset the fate mob for various reasons. Which is why SE disabled provoke for them, and they also said to report those who did it.

[Aegis]

It's griefing 100%. B ranks were not meant for everyone and their mother on the server to gang up on. That's more in line with an S rank, and even then there are still too many people. We had this issue early on with FATE mobs, people would continually reset the fate mob for various reasons. Which is why SE disabled provoke for them, and they also said to report those who did it.

So if someone accidentally facepulls an A rank, they shouldn't run it until it resets?

[Kinseykinz]

So if someone accidentally facepulls an A rank, they shouldn't run it until it resets?

They accidentally pulled, and they decided (and this is the key part) 'oh crap, I didn't mean to do that/OMG I'm gonna die! etc' and they decided, to reset it. There is no issue with this. It's when a group is already actively fighting the mob, and some other person/group runs up and purposefully pulls hate, and dashes off to reset the mob, forcing the initial team to lose all their progress there is an issue...a reportable issue.

[giantslayer]

It's griefing 100%. B ranks were not meant for everyone and their mother on the server to gang up on. That's more in line with an S rank, and even then there are still too many people. We had this issue early on with FATE mobs, people would continually reset the fate mob for various reasons. Which is why SE disabled provoke for them, and they also said to report those who did it.

So THAT'S why provoke doesn't work in fates? I had been wondering. I don't think I've ever had trouble getting credit on fates, though, even crowded ones, but the most crowded fate I've been in was less crowded than the least crowded hunt I've seen.

[electricblues42]

It's griefing 100%. B ranks were not meant for everyone and their mother on the server to gang up on. That's more in line with an S rank, and even then there are still too many people. We had this issue early on with FATE mobs, people would continually reset the fate mob for various reasons. Which is why SE disabled provoke for them, and they also said to report those who did it.

We wait for B ranks on Gilgamesh so that everyone can get full credit. It works excellent for us. I always have my tanks reset if they possibly can if there aren't many people there. You can report and waste a GM's time if you want. But we like to make sure as many people get credit as possible. They help us, we help them. That's how it works on Gilgamesh, most of the time at least.


Edit: BTW I love hunts. I really like my community and have gotten to know many new people. Sure there are trolls, and we do our best to keep them out of the good linkshells. But at the end of the day it shows you the best side of people. People reset as best as they can when there are early pullers and will often wait 5ish minutes for A ranks, especially if they are hard to get to. I've played this game more because of hunts than anything lately.

[Kinseykinz]

We wait for B ranks on Gilgamesh so that everyone can get full credit. It works excellent for us. I always have my tanks reset if they possibly can if there aren't many people there. You can report and waste a GM's time if you want. But we like to make sure as many people get credit as possible. They help us, we help them. That's how it works on Gilgamesh, most of the time at least.


Edit: BTW I love hunts. I really like my community and have gotten to know many new people. Sure there are trolls, and we do our best to keep them out of the good linkshells. But at the end of the day it shows you the best side of people. People reset as best as they can when there are early pullers and will often wait 5ish minutes for A ranks, especially if they are hard to get to. I've played this game more because of hunts than anything lately.

See the problem? (Yeah, I didn't think you did)

YOUR community in your mind does not = Gilgamesh. It ='s the Hunt LSs...and from your own admission, only the 'good hunt ls's' So even within your 'hunting crew' there's a pecking order, a crew more deserving than the rest.

But see, those 'trolls' or 'early pullers' they are doing nothing of the sort.

First off, there is no such thing as an 'early pull'. If there were, people would be pulling mobs before they even spawned. This is not happening. They see it, they claim it. If it was anything else in life, if would be theirs. This is like seeing a co-worker eating a salad they got from the salad bar you have access to as well, and instead of getting up, and making your own salad, just grabbing theirs and saying 'thanks...this is mine. And when they get up, and bring back a new salad, and now maybe a cup of soup, saying 'That's mine too, and taking both from them again'. Also, you're not waiting 'to help others' in some noble quest. You're waiting because you need them. If your party's not there when that mob is engaged, you'll likely not get full credit...so you respect that they too want full parties there...esp since again, you hail from the same FC/LS/Alliance. Duh you take care of your own ppl. But you're not being noble...or respecting those on your server.

Secondly, 'trolls'. Well, if they really ARE trolling, they can be reported. So, I'm going to guess that 'trolling' really means=they don't play by the rules we made up and mess up our system, even though what they are doing is totally within the mechanics and proper intentions of the game. Because if they were abusive or rude=reportable. If they were abusing game mechanics=cheating and reportable.

The only 'trolls' in your post btw are the 'afore mentioned

I always have my tanks reset if they possibly can if there aren't many people there

and

People reset as best as they can when there are early pullers

Might does not equal right. If you want the mob, be there when it spawns and be first to claim, if you lose out, deal with it....ANYTHING else is bullying or as you like to put it 'trolling'

[Nestama]

The only 'trolls' in your post btw are the 'afore mentioned and Might does not equal right. If you want the mob, be there when it spawns and be first to claim, if you lose out, deal with it....ANYTHING else is bullying or as you like to put it 'trolling'

Resetting mobs can also be bannable offence, since it is disrupting a players gameplay and most likely making them lose out on credit they rightfully deserve (ToS 3.2 Disruption).