Gardening - Harvesting

[synesthetic]

Is it safe to say that Glazenuts, Broombrush, Nymeia, Jute, when mixed with Chocobo food could result to Thavnarian Onion?

So far, it's any "G3" chocobo food with a G3/4 non-choco food.
As in G1-Gysahl, G2-Krakka, G3-(Curiel, Sylkis, Mimett, etc.), G4-Thav.Onion.
And similarly, G4 non-choco foods would be Jute/Glazenut/Broombush while G3 would be their precursors like Shroud Tea, Gerbera/Lily, Royal Kukuru, etc.

The new minions feel like a G3. I haven't had the space to be growing them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would work to make onions as well.

That is disappointing Just this morning I planted gardens to get seeds for this combo. I had hoped that I would not need jute etc to make the onion since I do not have any of those...

Offhand, I think it'd be the easiest to maintain a supply of Broombush, Sylkis, and Thav.Onions, ones you get the Broombushes. And you'd probably want to be able to grow at least some Broombushes anyways so you can have stable brooms.

Alm  Kr  Alm		Yields Sylkis and Mandrake.
Kr       Kr  		Krakkas grow faster, so could possibly breed a second set
Alm  Kr  Alm		with Almonds depending on how often you can fertilize.

Alm  Br  Alm		Remove Krakkas first, plant Broombushes to breed w/ old Almonds
Br       Br		to get new Broombush seeds.
Alm  Br  Alm		Harvest Almonds to pick up more Sylkis/Mandrake.

Syl  Br  Syl		Plant Sylkis to breed with Broombushes to make Thav.Onions/Shroud Tea.
Br       Br		Sylkis grow faster, so harvest them first then plant Almonds.
Syl  Br  Syl		Almonds will breed with Broombushes to make more Broombush seeds.

Alm  Br  Alm		Broombushes should finish growing before Almonds do.
Br       Br		Plant Krakkas in their place.
Alm  Br  Alm

Alm  Kr  Alm		Repeat.
Kr       Kr
Alm  Kr  Alm

It wouldn't be infinitely sustainable the way repeatable jute/glaze/broom patches normally are because of the flaky chance of getting Sylkis seeds, but I think it's the easiest way to attempt to juggle a Sylkis + Broom supply. If people you're growing for want more than just Sylkis though, then you'd have to go out of your way for them.

[Erendis]

So far, it's any "G3" chocobo food with a G3/4 non-choco food.
As in G1-Gysahl, G2-Krakka, G3-(Curiel, Sylkis, Mimett, etc.), G4-Thav.Onion.
And similarly, G4 non-choco foods would be Jute/Glazenut/Broombush while G3 would be their precursors like Shroud Tea, Gerbera/Lily, Royal Kukuru, etc.

The new minions feel like a G3. I haven't had the space to be growing them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would work to make onions as well.



Offhand, I think it'd be the easiest to maintain a supply of Broombush, Sylkis, and Thav.Onions <...>

Thanks for the advice!

Which grade plants can give more seeds when using Shroud soil do you think? xAlice got 5 tantalplant seeds when using it.

Not sure I want to risk getting so many Shroud Tea seeds, so I just might try to make Mandragora Queen from Nymeia Lily later or try and make more Sylkis Buds...

Edit:
Also, did anyone else try to get Thanvairian onion from Eggplant Knight + Onion Prince?

[Alice_89th]

Alm  Kr  Alm		Yields Sylkis and Mandrake.
Kr       Kr  		Krakkas grow faster, so could possibly breed a second set
Alm  Kr  Alm		with Almonds depending on how often you can fertilize.

Alm  Br  Alm		Remove Krakkas first, plant Broombushes to breed w/ old Almonds
Br       Br		to get new Broombush seeds.
Alm  Br  Alm		Harvest Almonds to pick up more Sylkis/Mandrake.

Syl  Br  Syl		Plant Sylkis to breed with Broombushes to make Thav.Onions/Shroud Tea.
Br       Br		Sylkis grow faster, so harvest them first then plant Almonds.
Syl  Br  Syl		Almonds will breed with Broombushes to make more Broombush seeds.

Alm  Br  Alm		Broombushes should finish growing before Almonds do.
Br       Br		Plant Krakkas in their place.
Alm  Br  Alm

Alm  Kr  Alm		Repeat.
Kr       Kr
Alm  Kr  Alm

I am going to try this, planted the first patch just now, wish me luck.

[Alice_89th]

The Plan

First Krakka's have been harvested:


Sadly I got 3 mandrakes vs 1 sylkis bud.
I'm not going to try and push a second set of Krakka's this time.
I had spare sylkis bud seeds in the fc chest, so as long as the almonds give me 1 more sylkis I am good to go.
(The Krakka's listed at the bottom are from a different garden)

Next up: planting broombush in the middle

[Alice_89th]

0. The Plan
1. Step 1

Forgot to post but the almonds were ready two days ago.
I clearly jinxed it by saying I only needed one more sylkis bud, because that is exactly what I got: 3 mandrakes and 1 sylkis.

The 4 Sylkis have been planted next to the broombush and they should be ready tomorrow *prays for onions*.

[Alice_89th]

0. The Plan
1. Step 1
2. Step 2


Sylkis Buds have been harvested, and lucky me received 4 Thavnairan Onions! Almonds were planted in their place.




The Broombush was ready a bit later, and properly intercrossed with the first almonds to give me 4 broombush seeds. Krakka's have been planted in their place.




I am still waiting on the new almonds and krakkas to finish growing, but here are my thoughts so far:

- chance of getting sylkis buds is indeed flaky.
- other than that the loop works perfectly.
- depending on how soon you plant the broombush, don't fertilize them to much. Mine bloomed only 1hour or so after the sylkis.

So after trying it once I would say that the only drawback to this is the flaky chance of producing sylkis buds. That problem might be solved by looping the first step (krakka x almond) untill you have a tiny supply of sylkis before moving to the next step. For now that is what I am going to do before I start the loop again.

[Estellios]

@Alice: It should be ok if the broombush finish growing as long as you remove the sylkis first and leave the broombush there so you can plant the Almonds. Plants can still intercross with fully-grown plants, you just obviously don't want to leave the fully grown plants alone for too long so they don't die.

[Alice_89th]

@Alice: It should be ok if the broombush finish growing as long as you remove the sylkis first and leave the broombush there so you can plant the Almonds. Plants can still intercross with fully-grown plants, you just obviously don't want to leave the fully grown plants alone for too long so they don't die.

I know, but leaving those fully grown plants out there makes me nervous, haha.


In other news, because I planned on doing several rounds of krakka x almond I planted my krakkas with Shroud 3 soil to provide my krakka-starved FC with some chocobo fodder. And then this happened:




No rest for the weary, on to the next round!

[HEC-]

Alm  Kr  Alm		Yields Sylkis and Mandrake.
Kr       Kr  		Krakkas grow faster, so could possibly breed a second set
Alm  Kr  Alm		with Almonds depending on how often you can fertilize.

Alm  Br  Alm		Remove Krakkas first, plant Broombushes to breed w/ old Almonds
Br       Br		to get new Broombush seeds.
Alm  Br  Alm		Harvest Almonds to pick up more Sylkis/Mandrake.

Syl  Br  Syl		Plant Sylkis to breed with Broombushes to make Thav.Onions/Shroud Tea.
Br       Br		Sylkis grow faster, so harvest them first then plant Almonds.
Syl  Br  Syl		Almonds will breed with Broombushes to make more Broombush seeds.

Alm  Br  Alm		Broombushes should finish growing before Almonds do.
Br       Br		Plant Krakkas in their place.
Alm  Br  Alm

Alm  Kr  Alm		Repeat.
Kr       Kr
Alm  Kr  Alm

In line with about plan I'm in process of tyding up my currently a bit "messy" planting order in gardes with following adjustment (only first step of the loop is shown, ther rest will follow the same pattern).

ALM - KRR - ALM
 |     |     |
KRR -  X  - KRR
 |     |     |
KRR - ALM - KRR

or

KRR - ALM - KRR
 |     |     |
ALM -  X  - ALM
 |     |     |
ALM - KRR - ALM

The crosbreed will still occur however the faster growing / "cheaper" seeds are in majority now producing higher overall yield. While in step 2 you might need more Broombrushes you can also opt for second alternative pattern instead.