Tired of "JP ONRY"? Let's bridge the language gap!

[Ere]

Litre! omg! Thank you! That is all very helpful!

Ephany- hehe it was used in my coil t5 run several times yesterday. I even brought it up with Kat trying to understand the です being there. We believe it changes the formality of the word, but not 100% positive ;p

です　makes it more formal. よろしく　よろしくです　よろしくおにがいします　

[NinjaTaru72]

It's a wonderful idea to learn jp. I've taught myself a bit too. But I have to ask you, have you ever thought that maybe they do "jp only" because they only want jp players? As innocent as your idea may come off as, you jumping in a "jp only" put just because you know how to speak jp is like joining a "titan ex, experienced only" after watching a YouTube video.

Yes, I'm sure some won't mind you being en and knowing jp. But there. Are still some who really only want to play with other "real" jp players.

Just something to think about before jumping in a gorup

[NinjaTaru72]

Cont.

I would suggest, since you seem to respect them enough to try learning to talk to them, that even if you do learn enough to understand and talk with them, that you at least inform them that your English that knows jp. That way they can choose from there if they want to keep you. A lot of jp players are very stern on the aspects of respect. And if you go around jumping in party's all willy nilly it could cause them to resent you.

[NinjaTaru72]

But I will say good luck. And I wish you thr best. Playing with one of my English speaking jp friends in his group, it was a lot more... Relaxing lol. Can't say the same for him when I brought him to English party's XD.

So getting a chance to play with them regularly, especially if you can understand them, can be rewarding.

[Mikita]

I have lived in Tokyo for 12 years and my wife is JP and plays 14 and I can speak pretty decent Japanese. Well we both joined a PF group for Titan EX and I was speaking Japanese with the party but as we were going to enter one a party member pointed out I wasn`t Japanese. Both me and my wife told them that I can speak and understand Japanese, she also told them I was her husband and we were playing next to each other and that she could explain anything I might not know. Well they still tossed up the JP Olny and booted me. Some JP only is because of communication, some because they think non-jp players are inferior, and others are just racist.

Sorry to hear that happened to you.
Some people are just not worth playing with. Their loss, not yours.

I play on a Japanese server and speak Japanese fluently, but I have my game set to English so people who inspect the party list may notice that (well, to the point where someone said something, it has only happened once so far). I will simply pass on PF groups that say JP ONLY because you never really know if they stated it for communication, or if they are just xenophobic. Testing them out is just not worth the potential drama and bad feelings.

です　makes it more formal. よろしく　よろしくです　よろしくおにがいします　

Hm. I think this may vary depending on who you ask.

よろしく by itself is just flat casual.

To me よろしくです is still casual. I think it also has a bit of a friendly nuance to it. But maybe ask your wife to see what she thinks. ^^

[Ere]

I have a macro in Japanese stating I am American but know JP and if they are not happy with that I will leave if asked. I use to always hit the macro when I joined a PF group, I never join JP only groups because I know they will ask me to leave regardless of me knowing JP. Once in a while though someone joins the group afer I hit my macro then see I play on th eenglish client and dont want me there and the other JP party members have always sided with the other JP player who wants me to leave. The group I described above wasn not JP only in the PF, I also hit my macro when I joined. But the last player who joined was the one who wanted me to leave and the rest of the party (excluding my wife) fell into the "we side with the other JP player" catagory and just booted me.

With the です in よろしくです I should of said it makes it very slightly a little more fomal. I guess not really worth adding it with how little it does so yes still casual.

[BobbinT]

I'm really sorry to hear that. And it would serve as an offensive and violation, thus you should report it. Recent post have me realize that the 'JP-Onry' trend are in fact has become tool to promote act of racism and must be stopped. This is an international game, even though brand started in JP.

It was funny when back then I watch this youtube movie of XI about player ranting JP-ONRY and got banned in the end, though I don't really get the rouse. But now that I understand about it, it's not funny anymore.

[Spy]

I would suggest, since you seem to respect them enough to try learning to talk to them, that even if you do learn enough to understand and talk with them, that you at least inform them that your English that knows jp

I don't really hide my nationality from them...even if I wanted to (which I don't) They can easily check my language selection ;p If Japanese players are only content with playing with only Japanese players, then I fully understand especially when it comes to bosses with complex strategies. It will be a while before I, or Katella or those who come to the learn-together, are able to fully communicate. But we're doing what we can. So far, I honestly can say that I have not had any issues with Japanese players kicking me out. (for any reason XD) and I have done quite a few Japanese parties. For what we don't understand, we can usually convey our emotions through emotes, and from the little we have learned so far (Japanese DF groups aren't very talkative anyway usually) So far, even though we've only had 3 sit-downs atm,

I get so excited when I can look at the Japanese hiragana/Kanji in chat and i can understand. So to me, this is worth it. ^_^ I do understand your concerns though. And I know we may encounter some difficulties or differences in the future. But we usually don't let it eat away at us.

[Mikita]

For what we don't understand, we can usually convey our emotions through emotes, and from the little we have learned so far (Japanese DF groups aren't very talkative anyway usually)

Best of luck with your learning and your adventures!

Except for my game's interface settings, my entire time in Eorzea is spent speaking Japanese. I'm not a frequent DF joiner, but there have been a few exceptional English speaking players I've come across. Why? Because they were just really polite and friendly.

In my humble opinion from the other side of the fence, things that can go a long way:

• Greetings! "こんばんは！" and "よろしくお願いします" or "よろしくです！” if you want to be a bit cute. "よろしく" is a bit unemphatic in my opinion, and "よろ" to strangers is almost crude.

• Or even using the auto-translate. [Hello!] [Nice to meet you!]

• Japanese emoticons can also help to lighten things up.

• Emotes also help. Not too many players use them in DF, so a /bow or even a /cheer or /psyche can help to break the ice.

• At the end of a run, say "おつかれさまでした！" or the auto-translate equivalents like [Good job!] and [Let's play together again] even if you may never see them again.

• Emotes again at the end also help.

• And please, please never leave a Japanese DF group after a wipe without saying anything. "Bad" parties I've been in keep trying and trying until they clear, or the timer runs out. I have been in groups that vote abandon after failing multiple times, but there is always some sort of discussion about it first. The only ones who have ever just up and left were English speaking players and it leaves a bad taste. I don't know what the auto-translate options would be, but please try to find something polite to say if leaving is unavoidable.

[Darki]

I ran a full pt df once for the ultima weapon fight a few mths back.

From what I got, some of them don't know the auto translate sucks so much. They just throw it off as en players don't bother to use it.

Well, it end with them calling me a cowboy thinking I'm American (-_-lll in JP

"We are ready cowboy, go pull (^_^."

"Sure thing Samurai" :P

I was called that once by JP. I think it's kinda cute. It's all in good fun.