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  1. #21
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    Rin23's Avatar
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    Judge Sabathiel
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    Lich
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Danblog View Post
    You're wrong PvP i100 is superior than pve 115 it could seem u r good with pve i115 but the difference is that u get more hp with that gear so your hp doesn't drain so fast, but in the end you still get a lot of damage and cannot deal good damage either. But about the weapon I fully agree
    I speak for a healer when you are full stuff 110 pve you have so much vitality and ur heal is stronger .
    Moral don't boost heal so...
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  2. #22
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Yes because being in WD you already have a clear idea putting someone with pve gear against someone wearing pvp armor. From my past experiences..it's nothing but a massacre and im happy that it's basically useless in frontlines.
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  3. 07-26-2014 09:19 PM

  4. #23
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    Zar'tan Vosloo
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 34
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    1. SE intends to increased PvP population, take out morale is a wise decision. No one would enjoy to be an easy prey in front of already geared player.
    2. Frontline is not the reason why WD dies, it is probably you and most of high rank and geared player. We still remember how all new players are mistreated. They were told that they should not do lvl 50 because they have no morale.
    3. Because of #2, lvl 40 becomes more popular than lvl 50, don't blame SE for taking side with the majority.

    No morale is better, everyone starts equal, it is you skill that matters.
    Quoted for Truth /endThread
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  5. #24
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    Koltik Morrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    2. Frontline is not the reason why WD dies, it is probably you and most of high rank and geared player. We still remember how all new players are mistreated. They were told that they should not do lvl 50 because they have no morale.
    3. Because of #2, lvl 40 becomes more popular than lvl 50, don't blame SE for taking side with the majority.

    No morale is better, everyone starts equal, it is you skill that matters.
    Times (should) have changed on #3. WD now has an i80 version of it; one that for some reason I have yet to see even pop...
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  6. 07-27-2014 01:46 AM

  7. #25
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    DividedSky's Avatar
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    Sneak Ers
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 50
    If they allowed moral in frontlines.... people on every team would at least a few ppl with moral gear.... there is no way you can't say it would be unfair. The fact that these people feel entitled to be "equal" with people who have been pvping longer than them is the problem here. You have not been pvping you should not be equal. They've worked hard and they deserve their moral gear and it SHOULD work. End of story.
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  8. #26
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    Sol Rising
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DividedSky View Post
    If they allowed moral in frontlines.... people on every team would at least a few ppl with moral gear.... there is no way you can't say it would be unfair. The fact that these people feel entitled to be "equal" with people who have been pvping longer than them is the problem here. You have not been pvping you should not be equal. They've worked hard and they deserve their moral gear and it SHOULD work. End of story.
    So you're arguing because PvP in Frontlines is created Equal...?

    People that "worked" hard for the morale gear was done in Wolves Den(Majority of people who just did Win trading). No work was done at all for Frontlines. These are 2 very different type of PvP Arena's. If you would like benefit for your PvP gear and your Hardwork, it still can be used in Wolves Den. Asking for Gear you acquired through Wolves Den to work in Frontlines is not even the same.

    That's like asking for the 100 1st place win Frontline Mount to be able to be achieved in Wolves Den as well. Which is completely out of the question.

    They're 2 completely different arenas.

    PvP gear can be used in Frontlines, Morale does not work. You want to show off your PvP gear then go ahead. But Morale stat in itself is unbalanced.

    Frontline que's are already long as hell 15-45mins. What makes people think there will be more players that actually want to play when they go up against ppl with r40 PvP gears/melds and they only have r20 PvP Gears? They will be killed in 2-3 shots. There's going to be even less people queing up for Frontlines if there's anymore imbalances.
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    Last edited by SolRising; 07-27-2014 at 08:31 AM.

  9. #27
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    Aelith Iv
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    Lich
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    Lancer Lv 22
    There are sad to see that people completely abandon the arena ...
    People think they are getting fucked arena when they do not have a moral gear ... and I regret this loser mentality ... The moral're not so violent as that, and as has mentioned above ... a weapon 115 pve are greater than a 100 pvp ...
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  10. #28
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Saviour Divinemight
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by mooneIV View Post
    There are sad to see that people completely abandon the arena ...
    The mentality of jump to the conclusion without read whole thread isn't too great either .....
    1. This is about Morale for the Frontline, not about about ilvl 110 PvE vs ilvl 100 PvP
    2. WD isn't dead because of morale, lvl40 and lvl30 were very popular
    3. Loser mentality? It was the geared players doesn't want fresh player que for lvl50 because they have no morale gear

    I have done a lot WD and witnessed many geared players are saying nasty things about the fresh players attempting lvl50 WD. Don't even bother to sugarcoat the morale please.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 07-27-2014 at 09:45 PM.

  11. #29
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    Aelith Iv
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    Lancer Lv 22
    People piss on too overlooked the moral ...
    I redid my first 22 rows in arena because I changed company to play with my friends in front ... and I was not disabled more than that to play with an average pve gear ...
    Skill> gear ...
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  12. #30
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Morale was a stupid idea to begin with. It imbalances the battlefield in favour of a select few, and not even the biggest fool could claim it wasn't a significant advantage. The fact is, if you had no morale, you were cannon fodder.

    I do agree that wolf marks are now completely redundant though, so maybe they could address that by adding something people might actually want to purchase besides arena gear.
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