The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[Brightmorn]

Yeah, the lack of DET on gear is kinda annoying... and frankly makes the stat weights a little less valuable.

But, some food for thought, perhaps...

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N9QI - More Det, Less RNG
77 WD, 578 Int (Dunefolk), 311 Det, 457 Crit, 504 Speed... Kenji's Magic Number says... 2.854604 Potency Value, or 2.945609 w/Selene counting as a 15% increase in Spell Speed.

Sadly it doesn't look like this one is possible since it uses TWO High Allagan Rings of Casting. The actual stats with one Evenstar Ring would be:
77 WD, 578 Int (Dunefolk), 311 Det, 471 Crit, 491 Speed (if I did that correctly).

[Ceveth]

Using Puro's new weights & calculator this set gives us a theoretical DPS value of 414.9, haven't been able to surpass it yet.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NA0J

Should also mention it outperforms the previous three sets on the page prior to this one.

[Kenji1134]

Using Puro's new weights & calculator this set gives us a theoretical DPS value of 414.9, haven't been able to surpass it yet.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NA0J

Should also mention it outperforms the previous three sets on the page prior to this one.

Thing is, most people are not dedicated enough to get these pentamelded accessories, given the current price of materia and that the last 2 melds are 10% and 4%... We're not made of gil you know.
Im not particularly experienced with that BiS Solver, as seen by my error with that Det Set =P
So, care to make a "BiS" set WITHOUT any melded gear, for those of us with empty pockets. =)

The point remains, the difference between a set with the best possible combination of stats that money can buy, and one without the pentamelded accessories, is really only 1%.
Hell, even trying to max out Det, to reduce the reliance on Crit RNG makes the set's theoretical value only about 2% less than an ideal... but with less RNG.

[Kenji1134]

Actually, there is another build that results in 2.8883 with the "omg belt". It also requires a bit less High Allagan drops. I can also see it scale a little better with Selene due to the higher SS in the build.
573 int, 255 det, 511 crit, 561 ss

I've been using that build but with Evenstar chest because of my awful luck and the damage output is still respectable. I'll test it again next week with the HA chest to see if my damage improves in T8 and T9.

Edit: BiS for gil buyers @ 2.915406
BiS for gil buyers who don't want to sacrifice too much vitality for savage coil @ 2.911687

...btw, how are you getting my magic number calculation... >.>

[Uninstall]

...btw, how are you getting my magic number calculation... >.>

You posted the formula somewhere sometimes ago lol. Also I think your http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N9QR set is fairly close to BiS if not BiS if you don't want to meld anything. In the end though, I'd much rather not lose any health on the left side for progression reasons, but the belt is just too good and too cheap to not craft. The extra 4 piety from the food can also mean the difference between Thunder II and Thunder I for some races which is another ~0.03% DPS increase I think.

[HaroldSaxon]

Thing is, most people are not dedicated enough to get these pentamelded accessories, given the current price of materia and that the last 2 melds are 10% and 4%... We're not made of gil you know.
Im not particularly experienced with that BiS Solver, as seen by my error with that Det Set =P
So, care to make a "BiS" set WITHOUT any melded gear, for those of us with empty pockets. =)

The point remains, the difference between a set with the best possible combination of stats that money can buy, and one without the pentamelded accessories, is really only 1%.

Hell, even trying to max out Det, to reduce the reliance on Crit RNG makes the set's theoretical value only about 2% less than an ideal... but with less RNG.

For my rings, i'm going for:
Crit 4
Acc 4
Spellspeed 4
Spellspeed 4

For the last slot i'll get either a crit 3 or an acc 3. The big cost is the 2nd overmeld (at least on my server). Then again, its really easy to get Gil from Spiritbonding. I just one shot the Acc 4 on my second ring which was nice, but the first one took 18 attempts -_-

[Numenor1379]

Hmmm >< 70 of 75 of novous with 37 SS and 33 Crit by old weights.... looks like i should have gone 31 DET and 44 SS grrr ... to late now thanks for the useful info though

Well... you could remove the infusions and redo the stat if you wanted, but you'll lose all the Alexandrite as well as the Materia (and a month's worth of dailies). I'm currently debating losing the 15 Crit points I've got and going to [+44 Sps, +23 Det, +8 Pie] instead of the +23 Crit I was planning.... Don't know if it's worth it.

Anyone know the math to determine the overall difference in DPS between those two builds?

[ShinTofu]

Well the difference according to the weights between Crit the new lowest, and Det the new highest is roughly .05... So being a max of 31 potential Det slotted vs say Crit my former plan that's a lose of 31*.05 or roughly 1.5 int....so honestly..... don't plan to redo at this point probably. Gonna think over it tonite then probably turn in scroll and make novous with 37 SS 33 Crit and 5 det

[YanderePrincess]

Well the difference according to the weights between Crit the new lowest, and Det the new highest is roughly .05... So being a max of 31 potential Det slotted vs say Crit my former plan that's a lose of 31*.05 or roughly 1.5 int....so honestly..... don't plan to redo at this point probably. Gonna think over it tonite then probably turn in scroll and make novous with 37 SS 33 Crit and 5 det

Keep in mind they've said we'll be able to make changes to our novus in the future. Whether that means a complete redo or the ability to just restat part of it is unknown. Plus, we still don't know what will happen with upgrading beyond Novus in the future, and having it with Crit instead of Det really isn't that big a deal since eventually you'd want to be running the HA staff, which has crit instead of det anyway.

[PuroStrider]

@ShinTofu

Well the whole reason I made that novus calculator was so that people would stop using the outdated stat weight at the time until I figured out the coefficient for the INT scaling, which thanks extra help from Kenji, we were able to come up with a damn nice formula.

Some one did ask me in reddit about this though. My response was:

1. 44 SS + 31 DET - This beats 44 CRIT + 31 SS with Evenstar Coat by 9-10 DPS with no RNG involved. It also has highest base damage but with only 18% CRIT.

2. 25 SS + 25 CRIT + 25 DET - Comparable to #1 with ~3 less RAW DPS w/ 20% CRIT and a lot less $$$

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It looks like I'll be testing out 4-5 different rotations myself, instead of making it so that you guys can edit it your own b/c this thing gets really complicated.

So, you'll have to take my word for it when when I put all the results in the new 'Spell Rotation' page to compare the best single target and AOE rotation.