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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkPunch View Post
    They originally posted it back in the IV letter here:

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...449d1b7c37eb49
    What I hate about that now is that they put that evil armor, which only a dark knight would be able to wear, and have yet to say whether or not they are including dark knight into one of the upcoming jobs....

    false hopes!

    I also dont think they looked at the aspects of what a thaum stands for and what a conj stands for closely enough when deciding any of these changes. Thaum should recieve a resurrect II and a Rebirth, not Conj. Maybey conj should have the aoe healing spells, but thaum should have the higher resurrects because of their more in-depth study of life and death.

    As for what unlocks what, they are going to have to do something very clever with what Conj unlocks, as they could be either whm or blm because they have both attack and heal/ailment cure spells. If anything they should abandon the idea of a 1-1 unlock and have conj unlock both Whm and Blm, while having Thaum unlock DARK KNIGHT. Since most Thaum skills match what a dark knight would use, a good story for that would be the thaum guild advancing their arts to using melee weapons and wearing heavier armor. But if they continue with this 1-1 unlock crap, it wont be possible.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-15-2011 at 09:59 AM.

  2. #112
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    Hmm.. I thought it was pretty obvious from the begining that Con was both Black Mage and White Mage.. Thaumaturge doesn't have anything that even remotely resembles either of the two classes. As far a lore is concerned THM don't bridge life and death and they are not healers. They seek vengence upon those who bring suffering to their people. That would be a Dark Knight. They also use debuffs and have absorb spells. More dark knight stuff..
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Hmm.. I thought it was pretty obvious from the begining that Con was both Black Mage and White Mage.. Thaumaturge doesn't have anything that even remotely resembles either of the two classes. As far a lore is concerned THM don't bridge life and death and they are not healers. They seek vengence upon those who bring suffering to their people. That would be a Dark Knight. They also use debuffs and have absorb spells. More dark knight stuff..
    Aha! i beat you to it ^^ or maybe it was a tie... both 7:59.....
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  4. #114
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    I hope my assumption is right and they actually plan to have multiple jobs for each class.. I mean, it would be kind of dumb not to considering half classes are built for atleast two Jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I hope my assumption is right and they actually plan to have multiple jobs for each class.. I mean, it would be kind of dumb not to considering half classes are built for atleast two Jobs.
    Right now there is only one.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    As far a lore is concerned THM don't bridge life and death and they are not healers.
    I respectfully disagree. Please see the quotes from the NPC listed below.

    Nyunoeya: To practice thaumaturgy is to walk the barrier between life and death.

    Tutubuki: If you would walk these halls, you must know of Nald'thal, the two aspects. Is it said Nald who rules over this world of the living, and Thal who keeps the realm of the dead.

    Anthoinette: You have come to the Milvaneth Sacrarium. here is the temple of Nald, Imbuer of Life.

    Hahayo: Those who worship in the world of Nald value achievement over all else. Pray to him, and be rewarded in the here and now. Through him, salvation lies in the affirmation of life, friend.

    Wise Moon: Place your trust in Nald. Give you life over to him, and we shall help you in whatever ways we are able.
    If I really tried, I'm sure I could find more.

    But please do not take offense, for I mean none. I understand that everyone has not spoken to every NPC in FFXIV or is familiar with every piece of lore in the game. I just wanted to make everyone aware of the life aspects of the Thaumaturge class that they might have missed simply because of the current allocation of the Cure spells to Conjurer.
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    Has anyone noted the gear in the tiny screenshot? Is that LNC gear new?
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    XI - Darkshade - Shiva
    XIV - Shade Highwind - Figaro

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshade View Post
    Has anyone noted the gear in the tiny screenshot? Is that LNC gear new?
    Thats probably one of the armors you get from the dungeons.
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    It looks awfully like the level 21(ish, I think) Bone Scale mail you craft.
    You never seen it because it just looks cool, but has pretty terrible stats and is such a low level.
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    One other subtle thing I like about this update:

    Rebirth -New-
    Restore the breath of life, reviving a KO’d target. Target suffers no Weakness or Brink of Death effects.
    • Learned: Conjurer, Rank 50

    Right now, when you hit Rank 50 (nice milestone) on Conjurer, you learn... Levinbolt II. (~_~)

    After 1.18 next week, at least players will get a more meaningful reward when they hit Rank 50. Rebirth (Raise III) is a potent spell that feels like a nice reward for hitting the current level cap.
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