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    This question pertains primarily to i100 gear, but it's partly cause I'm still trying to work out the difference in priority between crit and det. Which is better? The weathered evanstar hat/gloves or the scylla head/gloves? I feel like the scylla pieces should be better because slightly higher SS and det instead of crit (and I've already got a very large amount of crit), but stat weights I keep seeing seem to favor the weathered evanstar pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    This question pertains primarily to i100 gear, but it's partly cause I'm still trying to work out the difference in priority between crit and det. Which is better? The weathered evanstar hat/gloves or the scylla head/gloves? I feel like the scylla pieces should be better because slightly higher SS and det instead of crit (and I've already got a very large amount of crit), but stat weights I keep seeing seem to favor the weathered evanstar pieces.
    Crit is better, but there are plenty of better pieces to get your accuracy from. Running a det + acc piece means you lose so much crit and spellspeed that its not worth the increased Int.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Crit is better, but there are plenty of better pieces to get your accuracy from. Running a det + acc piece means you lose so much crit and spellspeed that its not worth the increased Int.
    I never mentioned any det+acc pieces. I'm trying to decide between det+SS and crit+SS and the det+SS pieces have more SS than the crit+SS pieces.

    Also, I'm already i97. I have the weathered evanstar hat and gloves. I'm just trying to determine if it would be better to use the scylla head/gloves (if I get them) until I gain access to i110 pieces.

    Also, doesn't crit become less useful the more you already have?
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    Sorry, I got confused with yourself and the other person asking!

    Crit's actual scaling is linear (in the way that going from 350 crit to 400 crit will give you the same increase as 400 to 450). It does have some diminishing returns in the fact that an 5% increase in crit from 5% to 10% is worth more than a 5% increase from 10% to 15% (as in the first instance its a 100% increase, in the second its only 50%). But those are only extreme numbers, in reality a smaller increase in crit isn't going to be affected by those diminishing returns by that much, and won't really outweigh the fact that you get more crit point for point on a piece of gear compared to det.

    Gear choices; if you are going for i100 pieces, and you aren't running crafted gear, then i'd probably still run the Evenstar Hat, Gloves and Feet. Those pieces are awesome. The Everstar Chestpiece and the ST legs would probably be the better combination. If you aren't going into new coil, then you can run the ST waistpiece, but if you need the accuracy, run the Evenstar belt.

    Its better to drop a bit of spellspeed to run more crit than have det if that makes sense.
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    I am doing second coil, but my static is still fairly new to it. We've only beaten T6 so far and are starting to learn T7. I grabbed Scylla body from ST primarily because I wanted to glamor it onto whatever body I'm wearing at the time on blm, but it also gives me an acc option when I need it (though I don't need more acc for T6 and T7 because I got HA Choker from T6 last week).

    For T8/T9, I would need to use the scylla body instead of scylla legs, as the acc on scylla legs wouldn't boost me high enough over the weathered evanstar legs.

    There's also the fact that on the scylla head/hands, they have more SS than the weathered evanstar have, and SS's value does increase as you get more of it, right?
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    Yeah, spellspeeds value does increase as you put more into it, in a similar way as to how crit decreases. But it isn't by a huge amount.

    The spellspeed does make a good difference when you have Seleen out. Having a 2.05 GCD for half the fight is nice.

    At the end of the day though, I try and maximise crit and spellspeed, and trade off det for accuracy where I can. Your accuracy should be fine once you get the ring from T6 (or the choker).
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    I have the choker already. I'm sitting at 443 accuracy atm.

    I really don't like the idea of giving up too much det, though, since crit doesn't mean as much when your base damage is lower. Also, our job is already highly RNG dependant. Crit makes it more so.
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