If locked gear progression is still valued, why do sands/oil still flow free in Hunts

[Lithera]

Except even Yoshi said that Myth being on par with Allagan was a mistake in one of the letters. It's too early to open the flood gates like this honestly.

Find me the quote and I'll believe you. If it exists it may have been in reference to them being even pre-2.1. We're in the equivalent of post-2.1. We're still locked by soldier lockout so saying Coil shouldn't be locked is nonsense. CT...again...soldiery lockout keeps i100s coming slowly just means they instaupgrade to i110 if you carry sand or oil around. No lockout on CT would put all your classes in i100+ in a week or two. The hardcore raiders got their i110 in 2.2. Now the next tier of raiders can gear up a bit and challenge Coil 2 for their i115 weps and BiS i110s before Coil 3.

[ispano]

Both ST and Coil 2 should just be unlocked at this point. It makes no sense to keep those locked but have Hunts be unlimited. The reason everyone is zerging the Hunts is, well, what else is there to do? Once you've gotten your weekly ST item and done your weekly Coil runs, you're done for the week. So everyone's being funneled towards Hunts right now if they want to do anything at all, but if ST and Coil 2 were unlocked players could do that instead if they wanted to.

No, that's backwards. Sands/Oil should be locked from hunts. It's not 2.4 yet with a higher tier out yet. Coil 2 should not be unlocked yet.

[Lithera]

Both ST and Coil 2 should just be unlocked at this point. It makes no sense to keep those locked but have Hunts be unlimited. The reason everyone is zerging the Hunts is, well, what else is there to do? Once you've gotten your weekly ST item and done your weekly Coil runs, you're done for the week. So everyone's being funneled towards Hunts right now if they want to do anything at all, but if ST and Coil 2 were unlocked players could do that instead if they wanted to.

Someone who hasn't really touched Coil 2 may have 1 class fully geared in soldiery with ac ouple of odds and ends. Once they upgrade them all they are back to waiting on soldiery for more gear. OIls and Sands aren't gear they're an upgrade for gear that is behind a 400 tome a week LOCKOUT.

[Alphras]

Both ST and Coil 2 should just be unlocked at this point. It makes no sense to keep those locked but have Hunts be unlimited. The reason everyone is zerging the Hunts is, well, what else is there to do? Once you've gotten your weekly ST item and done your weekly Coil runs, you're done for the week. So everyone's being funneled towards Hunts right now if they want to do anything at all, but if ST and Coil 2 were unlocked players could do that instead if they wanted to.

This. Punishing players who actually don't want to participate in the hunts with lockouts is only stupid at this point.

[ispano]

Find me the quote and I'll believe you. If it exists it may have been in reference to them being even pre-2.1. We're in the equivalent of post-2.1. We're still locked by soldier lockout so saying Coil shouldn't be locked is nonsense. CT...again...soldiery lockout keeps i100s coming slowly just means they instaupgrade to i110 if you carry sand or oil around. No lockout on CT would put all your classes in i100+ in a week or two. The hardcore raiders got their i110 in 2.2. Now the next tier of raiders can gear up a bit and challenge Coil 2 for their i115 weps and BiS i110s before Coil 3.

It's not quite the quote i've been looking for, but it is related.

In patch 2.0 and 2.1, the equipment from the Binding Coil of Bahamut and the equipment you could obtain with Allagan tomestones of mythology were exactly the same, and I think this detracted from players’ motivation.

[Illya]

No, that's backwards. Sands/Oil should be locked from hunts. It's not 2.4 yet with a higher tier out yet. Coil 2 should not be unlocked yet.

The cat is already out of the bag. Pandora's Box has already been opened. If Squenix removed things from Hunts now there would be rioting in the streets of Eorzea.

The only solution now is to unlock ST and Coil 2, and count it as a lesson learned for future patches.

[Kagari_Asuha]

It's not quite the quote i've been looking for, but it is related.

He said it somewhere else as well, I'll try and find it.

[ispano]

The cat is already out of the bag. Pandora's Box has already been opened. If Squenix removed things from Hunts now there would be rioting in the streets of Eorzea.

The only solution now is to unlock ST and Coil 2, and count it as a lesson learned for future patches.

It's too early to unlock them, so no.

[Alphras]

Unlocking Second Coil is to early yes. But ST should be unlocked, since the rewards are worse than the stuff you get from hunting.

[Warlyx]

another way to gain seals will be the best aproach , from frontlines / dungeons / ramuh / bills (need like a 5000% boost lol)