If locked gear progression is still valued, why do sands/oil still flow free in Hunts

[NorthernLadMSP]

Your doing something horribly wrong if your getting 50 seals in an hour. Can get more than that in 10 minutes simply afking in town and porting when someone posts a <pos> in linkshell chat then shouting for a group (or joining any of the hunt groups in PF)

Is it more effort than ST? No. More time consuming assuming you get one your 1st run? Yes. More time consuming than it will likely take? No

30% drop rate so will take you several runs on average to even see one. Then you likely have a 1/7 chance of winning (lets assume 1 person in your group is dumb enough to roll on the earlier loot).

LOL, you must live in a fantasy world where people actually wait for others to arrive before pulling/killing the monsters. Either that, or you're blessed to be on a server that has people that want to help themselves AND others vs. just helping themselves.

[Tiggy]

LOL, you must live in a fantasy world where people actually wait for others to arrive before pulling/killing the monsters. Either that, or you're blessed to be on a server that has people that want to help themselves AND others vs. just helping themselves.

That's exactly what I was thinking. That player clearly doesn't understand just how bad it can be. Especially on a highly populated server. It's bad and Syrcus tower with unlocked sands would be by far faste and with much less headache. Nothing like having my own teammates right there when it spawns so we get the first heads up only to have some group run up before we all gather and kill it.

Also if he were in my party sitting in town I'd boot him from my group. Go out and help or get out you waste of space. You're just leeching off the hard work of others then go on talking about how easy it is.

[Welsper59]

That's exactly what I was thinking. That player clearly doesn't understand just how bad it can be. Especially on a highly populated server. It's bad and Syrcus tower with unlocked sands would be by far faste and with much less headache. Nothing like having my own teammates right there when it spawns so we get the first heads up only to have some group run up before we all gather and kill it.

Also if he were in my party sitting in town I'd boot him from my group. Go out and help or get out you waste of space. You're just leeching off the hard work of others then go on talking about how easy it is.

Actually he's right on the aspect of it being faster/efficient to go through hunts. The thing a lot of people don't do (including myself) is join a LS/FC that is dedicated to elite hunting. Even when you do, you join a party (ideally a full 8-player one). Depending on how many people show up, and if it's a B rank or not, you may not get full credit for the kill, but it's just a slight hindering when you know that within the next 5min, another B/A/S will be up and ready to be killed by your group/LS/FC.

This is all somewhat dependent on your server though. The extremely populated servers will have difficulty with 100+ players going at it 24/7. Others will generally see an average of 50+ players at any given moment, regardless of time, and those will be the ones that likely get frequent max reward yields. For the most part, people really shouldn't be waiting very long for the pull if they want a better chance at the max reward. While it's nice to see that players are being courteous for each other (even if it's just their own LS/FC/Party), the system doesn't really reward you for being overly courteous. Currently, it wants you to just go for the kill when you have the necessary numbers.

[Makado]

LOL, you must live in a fantasy world where people actually wait for others to arrive before pulling/killing the monsters. Either that, or you're blessed to be on a server that has people that want to help themselves AND others vs. just helping themselves.

On Excalibur we have people who have capped at 4000 seals on accident because they forgot to spend them. Our hunt community is very good, especially late night.

[Baneus]

LOL, you must live in a fantasy world where people actually wait for others to arrive before pulling/killing the monsters. Either that, or you're blessed to be on a server that has people that want to help themselves AND others vs. just helping themselves.

Well..when people don't wait on Behemoth, they have a good chance to lose all their credit when the reset is successful