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  1. #791
    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Selli Noblesse
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    In 2.0/2.1 there were no ilvl restrictions, the tank joined as warrior and then changed to ilvl55 or so PLD (with lv55 I mean he had half lv50 and half lv60 stuff).
    Got oneshot by Soldier and Knight.
    That reminds me of one time when I pugged t4 for farm in the DF (this was back when the echo buff was really new) and we had a tank who was wearing full Allagan healing accessories to get past the minimum item requirement. It was horrific. I couldn't even heal him through mobs.
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  2. #792
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    Mockingjay's Avatar
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    Kane Altrath
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 80
    I've had a few healing horror stories recently but the one that made me laugh the most happened tonight in Halatali hard. We get to the second boss with no problems at all then as I'm healing everyone from the roars I mess up and the tank dies. I raise the tank and we finish it fine. After, I'm stood re-stoneskinning everyone so I'm last to talk to the guy to teleport to the next area. I normally take a bit longer than most to load, and as I arrive in the next area I see the tank- still with weakness debuff- losing HP. To my horror, they've gone and started to fight without me anywhere nearby, and despite my best tries I can't save the tank when I finally get there. I raise him and we beat the trash fine, then the tank asks 'are you letting me die on purpose?'. I couldn't help but laugh out loud when he said that, just couldn't believe that he was ready to blame his impatience on me. I guess he wanted me to be long-distance healing over Skype or something :P
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  3. #793
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    Akyio's Avatar
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    Akyio Tayin
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    often i have horror stories when somehow tanks decide not to use their skills to pull aggro..
    i think this one was yesterday as i was leveling my conjurer a bit, was a relatively low level dungeon, where tank was not using anything but auto attacks.. so when i heal him everything is pulled on me. and well he was squishy as hell as well(dps tank?). then we had archer and bm, at the last boss fight bm got locked behind cos he was watching a cutscene and tank of course could not wait any longer. so we were 3 fighting there, i have no idea how i pulled that. archer was mainly tanking due to dealing most damage, have no idea how we pulled that cos at the end i had no mana left for heals anymore. archer timed limit break at the right time and i could escape the horror
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  4. #794
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    Kienkarajo's Avatar
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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I was doing Ifrit EX yesterday using duty finder, one of the tanks was getting killed just after 2 hits I dont why he was dying so fast so we wiped like 3 times just at the beginning of the fight, then all the party asked why he was dying so fast and replied "I know the reason it's called bad healers", I was shocked because I didnt even had time to cast cure 2 nor the other healer. After a couple of wipes we still (healers) were gettng all the blame from the tank but at least one of the dps said, "they are not having any issues healing all the dps," the time was at 46 minutes and a black mage said "I'm just waiting one minute and the wipe so we can vote abandon this shit," on that last try we actually killed Ifrit because we switched tanks (poor fella had to eat 6 stacks) and then the other tank said "good run but still the healers suck," never again duty finder, never again.
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  5. #795
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kienkarajo View Post
    I was doing Ifrit EX yesterday using duty finder, one of the tanks was getting killed just after 2 hits I dont why he was dying so fast so we wiped like 3 times just at the beginning of the fight, then all the party asked why he was dying so fast and replied "I know the reason it's called bad healers", I was shocked because I didnt even had time to cast cure 2 nor the other healer. After a couple of wipes we still (healers) were gettng all the blame from the tank but at least one of the dps said, "they are not having any issues healing all the dps," the time was at 46 minutes and a black mage said "I'm just waiting one minute and the wipe so we can vote abandon this shit," on that last try we actually killed Ifrit because we switched tanks (poor fella had to eat 6 stacks) and then the other tank said "good run but still the healers suck," never again duty finder, never again.
    Sadly this happens too often. Really keep the tank(s) up is a team effort, not just with the other healers but the tanks themselves. They need to manage CDs, have at least decent gear for the content they're tackling, etc. In other content DPS plays a role too (please don't pop 2 orbs during tidal roar @.@).

    But in your case it sounds like the party wasn't buying into it, so that's a plus.^^
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  6. #796
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    Kienkarajo's Avatar
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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    Ugh, that's pretty awful for helping to carry the team through that mess.

    Anyway, I feel a lot of times that DPS develop a sort of tunnel vision. Experience with other classes helps alleviate it, but they're still not required to watch party members the same way as healers are. As long as the tank and healer are up, they don't have to pay attention to anything except their own rotation and dodging. It takes something like the end of the fight or a dead tank to snap them out of it. More likely than not, he had those blinders on and assumed you let the tank drop dead when they actually dced.
    So true, my main is a white mage but I just recently started a Gladiator and a marauder and I can say that I see dungeons completely different I wish that some of the dps play a little while as a healer so they can know that moving, keeping the tank alive and also all the dps is not as easy as it looks, I'm looking at you Ifrit Extreme!!!
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  7. #797
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    Kienkarajo's Avatar
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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    Cactuar
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    New story Yeah! Tried expert roulette and got Stone Vigil HM, I said "easy enough" we get to the first boss and then the adds show up I was expecting the dps kill the adds but instead they were burning the boss and also the tank was moving the boss trough all the place (plus all the movement that the boss does already) so I had to move closer to the tank all the time to heal and with all the adds on me, I die and then we tried again we wipe again and then one dps said that I'm not healing fast enough and I said that it hard to heal if they kept running and not killing the adds asap (of course far from the boss) we tried a third time and same shit, we wipe the tank asked that if I know how the fight works coz Im doing a terrible job instead of reply or say something, because I was really pissed I just left the group, after the 30 min wait I get the same dungeon again, no problems that time, easy as usual.
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  8. #798
    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kienkarajo View Post
    Tried expert roulette and got Stone Vigil HM, I said "easy enough" we get to the first boss and then the adds show up I was expecting the dps kill the adds but instead they were burning the boss
    I've had this issue many times in SV HM. Tanks are 100% supposed to pick up the adds (or at least DPS should be kind enough to try to get them off you). Yes, they buff the boss and yes they stack. But ONLY for 15-20 seconds and they're easy enough to deal with (I have had no issues healing tanks through the extra damage/speed the boss gets). I don't know why they keep expecting healers to kite them, because if they don't get you with their auto-attacks, the heavy debuff (that, for whatever reason, can't be esuna'd) and the DoT will definitely kill you.
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  9. #799
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    EricCartmenez's Avatar
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    Veronica Venom
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 90
    Ran one of the easiest dungeons, Tam Tara normal mode, last night in DF roulette. The tank didn't use flash more than 10 times in the whole dungeon. Myself and the Archanist took the brunt of the damage. The DRG even asked if the tank had ever done this before. Not one typed response. So we got through, but I never had to get the crap beat out of me so much. He wasn't level synch'd and he had low level gear, but he didn't even try. I ran behind him with a trash mob, and he acted like I wasn't there! I think were were all thinking, "vote kick", but we knew we could clear with what little he did. We got through without a wipe, but I had to kill the demons and much of the trash while trying to heal everyone. Must have switched in and out of Cleric Stance more times than the tank flashed.
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  10. #800
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Tanks are 100% supposed to pick up the adds (or at least DPS should be kind enough to try to get them off you).
    I always just assumed that the DD are supposed to peel them to the far corner and kill them. . .
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