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  1. #31
    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Okay.

    We never saw how many surplus points we got, we were just told "You got surplus points!"

    We were never able to check and see how many surplus points we had accumulated.

    We never saw anything in game that said, "Hey, spend your surplus points here!"

    Now, we're told our surplus points will be removed without a trace. I say there was never a trace of them in the first place, so how do we know they ever existed in the first place?

    On the other hand, how can we be sure they didn't exist?

    Now, go through that and replace the words "surplus points" with "God".

    DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND???
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  2. #32
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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Okay.

    We never saw how many surplus points we got, we were just told "You got surplus points!"

    We were never able to check and see how many surplus points we had accumulated.

    We never saw anything in game that said, "Hey, spend your surplus points here!"

    Now, we're told our surplus points will be removed without a trace. I say there was never a trace of them in the first place, so how do we know they ever existed in the first place?

    On the other hand, how can we be sure they didn't exist?

    Now, go through that and replace the words "surplus points" with "God".

    DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND???
    yes you did <3
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    Mew!

  3. #33
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    With this, the dark days are coming closer to an end.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Okay.

    We never saw how many surplus points we got, we were just told "You got surplus points!"

    We were never able to check and see how many surplus points we had accumulated.

    We never saw anything in game that said, "Hey, spend your surplus points here!"

    Now, we're told our surplus points will be removed without a trace. I say there was never a trace of them in the first place, so how do we know they ever existed in the first place?

    On the other hand, how can we be sure they didn't exist?

    Now, go through that and replace the words "surplus points" with "God".

    DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND???
    Actually before they changed the wording, back when SP was action based, we did in fact get to see the amount of "bonus" SP we obtained per fight.

    Also, we never got to check them or spend them because it was always meant as a fatigue system. It wasn't meant to reward you, it was meant to punish players who spent more than a certain amount of time ranking any one class. (In other words, another poorly conceived system meant to combat RMT rather than make the game enjoyable.)

    And, we can be pretty darn sure they existed, especially anyone playing long enough to remember 90% surplus. *shudder*

    So...no...
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 07-14-2011 at 08:54 PM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Okay.

    We never saw how many surplus points we got, we were just told "You got surplus points!"

    We were never able to check and see how many surplus points we had accumulated.

    We never saw anything in game that said, "Hey, spend your surplus points here!"

    Now, we're told our surplus points will be removed without a trace. I say there was never a trace of them in the first place, so how do we know they ever existed in the first place?

    On the other hand, how can we be sure they didn't exist?

    Now, go through that and replace the words "surplus points" with "God".

    DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND???
    Devil's proof.
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  6. #36
    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Actually before they changed the wording, back when SP was action based, we did in fact get to see the amount of "bonus" SP we obtained per fight.

    Also, we never got to check them or spend them because it was always meant as a fatigue system. It wasn't meant to reward you, it was meant to punish players who spent more than a certain amount of time ranking any one class.

    And, we can be pretty damn sure they existed, especially anyone playing long enough to remember 90% surplus. *shudder*

    So...no...
    Oh, when will the persecution of us asurpluspointists end? T_T
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    Well, as to whether they existed or were recorded: Yes.
    I remember gaining surplus levels, so they had to be accumulated and stored somewhere.

    But let's focus on the bright side:

    THEY ARE GONE,
    YAYA, THE WITCH IS DEAD ^^
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Oh, when will the persecution of us asurpluspointists end? T_T
    Believing something doesn't exist is a belief in itself! You say you don't believe in the flying spaghetti monster, so you BELIEVE in something! Science is a belief too!

    =3
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  9. #39
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    Believing something doesn't exist is a belief in itself! You say you don't believe in the flying spaghetti monster, so you BELIEVE in something! Science is a belief too!

    =3
    Now that's an old one.
    My father used to say:

    "One of the good things about reality is,
    that you can clearly feel it when it bites into your ass."

    That hypothetical spaghetti-monster still has to manage to do that.
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    Gun Anam
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    I was never dellusional enough to think that I would receive any bonus or reward for SP/XP lost due to fatigue. I would think this goes for the vast majority of players also.
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    Là á Bhlàir's math na Càirdean.
    (Friends are good in the day of battle)

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