Is the PS3(4?) holding back the game?

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I played XI since 2002

This means what? Oh right, nothing.

So..no answer? Understood, since I'm damn sure consoles are technology and hardware because hardware is a technology because it's the technology that drives the hardware to do what it can do.

You are reaching...I'll give you an A for effort. Technology and Hardware are not the same thing. Besides, I did answer.

I already told you what is holding back pc only mmo's as well, just because you refuse to accept it doesn't make it any less true.

FFXI and FFXIV ARR have a few more things going for it than what PC only MMOs offer in terms of systems. While ARR is extremely basic in design, for being "held back" they sure went all out graphically and the use of promixity sound that PC only MMOs seem to struggle with - while likewise many PC only MMOs are using standard engines which let them do a bit more (for example far less clipping, which was a design choice and not due to any limitations.)

Again what are you trying to prove? You are reading into this sideways and your denial that hardware limitations of the ps3 and ps4 do not have an effect the game.

Do you own a ps3 / ps4 / and pc? You can do some comparisons yourself. I'll list a couple things that are affected.

1) Graphics -- Look at the PS3 and PS4 side by side and you will notice a huge difference. Then put a PC with max settings next to a ps4 and you will notice a difference.

2) UI -- Look at the consoles UI and its limitations and compare it to a PC's UI

3) Inventory

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... your denial that hardware limitations of the ... ps4 do not have an effect the game.

Do you own a ps3 / ps4 / and pc? You can do some comparisons yourself.

1) Graphics -- Look at the PS3 and PS4 side by side and you will notice a huge difference. Then put a PC with max settings next to a ps4 and you will notice a difference.

2) UI -- Look at the consoles UI and its limitations and compare it to a PC's UI

3) Inventory

WHAT are you BLABLING about??? Currently there is NO PS4 hardware limitation (and no - game file size limit is not hardware limitation, it's limitation placed by Sony on the whole platform and actually even that could have been overcomed by simply using multiply game save files as other games did already on PS3) and I seriously doubt there will be any in forseable future! And yes - I do have and play game on all 3 platforms and I can tell you that I saw not only worse results on some PCs than PS4 but even than PS3.

PS4 have exactly the same UI as PC including expanded inventory. You're simply making idiot of yourself by such "arguments" and frankly you should go first and compare all 3 platforms thoroughly before posting such nonsense ... Please stop mixing "consoles" / PS3 and PS4 together.

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WHAT are you BLABLING about??? Currently there is NO PS4 hardware limitation (and no - game file size limit is not hardware limitation, it's limitation placed by Sony on the whole platform and actually even that could have been overcomed by simply using multiply game save files as other games did already on PS3) and I seriously doubt there will be any in forseable future! And yes - I do have and play game on all 3 platforms and I can tell you that I saw not only worse results on some PCs than PS4 but even than PS3.

PS4 have exactly the same UI as PC including expanded inventory. You're simply making idiot of yourself by such "arguments" and frankly you should go first and compare all 3 platforms thoroughly before posting such nonsense ... Please stop mixing "consoles" / PS3 and PS4 together.

How am I blabbing? You clearly leave out the ps3 in this glorified argument of yours, which is a LARGE part of my post in general. The PS4 UI is not the exact same, you don't have all the same options as the PC version.

Worse results on, more than likely, a far outdated pc as far as hardware is concerned. Put it next to a top line PC and you can see the difference. Quit trying to compare a commodore 64 to a ps4.

Game file size limit. Why do you think the limit is there? Oh right, hardware. I'm not making an idiot of myself but you sure are making one out of yourself.

I'm sorry that you cant think outside of the now. In two years when pc tech has far surpassed ps4 tech (it already surpasses it by miles) you wont be saying the same nonsense.

The fact remains that the memory limits of consoles (and low end pc's) hold games back from blowing out the box.

Echocia. That is what pc players do is bash console players. I suggest just ignore them.

nobody is bashing, well at least im not lol