Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[Eissels]

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Actually, I haven't touched the hunt system. I think it's bloated, creates too much conflict, and isn't worth the drama.

But, you know what you get to show for your effort? High Allagan gear. In a lot of cases, it's BiS over Soldiery gear, and, beyond that, there's also the prestige title from SSCoB, if what you're focused on is gratification and something to show for your work.

Now, I do believe that SSCoB should've given gear, but that's another discussion entirely. Frankly, though, the reason I'm so derisive over this is that it doesn't matter. I've been the heroic raider. I've been the top tier, mostly thunderforged, BiS top of the charts person that likes to think people will ogle over them in main cities.

But it's irrelevant. New content will come out in a few months. Your "prestige" means nothing to the majority of the playerbase. It gives you literal nothing but your own personal overinflated sense of self worth that, frankly, shouldn't be coming from a video game.

Do what you do, be proud of your own accomplishments for their own sake, and forget what everyone around you looks like. You'll be much happier, especially in a game like this.

[ComradeQuestions]

I agree the hunts system creates too much drama, but I am also going to stop raiding. Variety of reasons mostly, but now at least, for better or worse, I no longer feel the 'pressure' (or incentive) to raid frequently. Not to be 'that guy' but last patch was kind of a bomb, and the direction they've headed in lately I really just don't like. Too much pressure to grind, or requirements to grind, and boring/stale content, and a playerbase that's become rather toxic. Not saying FFXIV is bad on a whole either, I just don't like the direction it's headed in the past 2 patches.

[Dwill]

Oh noes! Not everyone is an elite endgame raider! ~collapse from shock~

We could still give you i115 with full i110 and people would still die at T5 and Titan Ex. Not everyone's an endgame raider is true, not everyone needs the best gear is also true.

Actually, I haven't touched the hunt system. I think it's bloated, creates too much conflict, and isn't worth the drama.

But, you know what you get to show for your effort? High Allagan gear. In a lot of cases, it's BiS over Soldiery gear, and, beyond that, there's also the prestige title from SSCoB, if what you're focused on is gratification and something to show for your work.

Now, I do believe that SSCoB should've given gear, but that's another discussion entirely. Frankly, though, the reason I'm so derisive over this is that it doesn't matter. I've been the heroic raider. I've been the top tier, mostly thunderforged, BiS top of the charts person that likes to think people will ogle over them in main cities.

But it's irrelevant. New content will come out in a few months. Your "prestige" means nothing to the majority of the playerbase. It gives you literal nothing but your own personal overinflated sense of self worth that, frankly, shouldn't be coming from a video game.

Do what you do, be proud of your own accomplishments for their own sake, and forget what everyone around you looks like. You'll be much happier, especially in a game like this.

It's not just about the prestige. It's about the game's balance as well. I've heard more than once that the casuals doesn't want to wait 6 months or more for gear upgrade. We've got 3-4 months before 2.4 comes out and if the pattern follows the previous patches, the new Tomestones gear wil lbe i110 and the upgrade i120. But if people don't want to wait 6+ months, are they going to start asking for the i120 already because they are too impatient ? Since we are giving nearly free i110 right now, no one will want the new Tomestones gear and everyone willask for i120 since they want a sense of progression. With this logic, why even have Tomestones gear ?

Then let's say the that the iLvL of the gear then will be i120 for soldiery and i130 for upgraded/raid gear. It then create a glut in the item level where mobs now need to be balanced to the increase in high level. Seeing as how people are strugglign with current content, do you think that's a good idea ?

Don't you see how that's unhealthy for the game ?

[Shake0615]

Second Coil has been out for like 3 months now so this seems like a good time to start adding in easier ways to obtain raid level gear for the stragglers as we prepare for Patch 2.4. I, personally, haven't even stepped foot inside Coil since I cleared T5 because I hadn't been able to make my way onto a static and I'm not much of a raider at heart. But when I do raid it's because it can be fun; the gear is incidental. When weekly lockout times are lifted and I get a chance to freely run with other FC mates, then I'll get back into it for story purposes.

[Zoeila]

you know some like me would do coil 2 even if i have i110 for glamor.

[Sapphic]

Don't you see how that's unhealthy for the game ?

I agree with what you are saying, there should have been either a weekly limit on obtaining sands/oils. One a week then by the time ST gets sands they will still be desirable, plus keeping itbalanced between all sources. 1 from hunts, 1 from CT and 2 from SCoB.

But, with 2.4 I also remember Yoshi saying they will add a level increase with the introduction of new classes/jobs. So 2.4 could well possibly be a reset on gear for the new level cap (assuming that is still in the picture).

[Sapphic]

But, you know what you get to show for your effort? High Allagan gear. In a lot of cases, it's BiS over Soldiery gear, and, beyond that, there's also the prestige title from SSCoB, if what you're focused on is gratification and something to show for your work.

But BiS with HA and Soldiery gear is calculated taking into account accuracy caps for turn 9. Which is upto 515. A figure which is not needed outside of t9. Thus obtaining said BiS means you miss out on a lot of additional, more beneficial stats due to stacking excessive accuracy. Also the difference in BiS 110 and non Bis 110 is minimal at best.

Point is, you do not in any way need BiS 110 for anything, unless your doing coil then you need the required accuracy.

In regards to your off topic Gear wasn't added this time round to savage coil because it was implemetned as a test to see if it is desirable and even completeable by the community, thus no additional resources implemented to create a new set of gear for it. Yoshi did state if it turns out worthwhile to continue adding that type of content that they will add additional gear to further versions.

Otherwise if it's a failure, no additional resources where wasted.

[Brainberry]

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Most SOL pieces for bards have accuracy and SS so theres definitely a significant difference gearing up with HA BiS pieces.

Then theres also the +2weapon damage(16-18 dex) difference from HA weap to the next best thing which is huge.

[Grizzlebeard]

Actually here's why nobody bothered with your little quote. It is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

You really need to come up with some new material.

[Evenstar]

People that play the game to have fun with friends and tackle hard challenges will still do Coil .... Besides that it is not like all BiS gear is from Soldiery.