Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[ispano]

Giving good gear outside of coil might be what enables more people to do coil. It's the people who are lagging behind due to difficulty that actually need gear more than the frontrunners. People will naturally try all content that is available to them, so you will see more people in coil when they unlock it. If coil participation is declining right now it would be because the people who have been farming it for months are done with it now, while people who haven't got there yet are not seeing difficulty eased enough to make it happen.

The main issue with your comment, is most of the difficulty is mechanics, not gear checks. Basically meaning, if you're already considered overgeared for the fight, more won't help you.

[Zaiken]

Why do you people think it so easy to get enough Ally Seal for Sand? I have been Teleport to every Zone, listen to shout, and minutes I get there it is either Dead or I get 5 Seals from it. Join a Hunt LS? It the same exact drama, people won't share or it being populated and competition against other FC or Linkshell.

Right now it is just way too stressful and to deal it to be worth it. If they have the patient and can deal with the Drama and get their sand, more power to them. But if if you're not in the Top FC or LS that farm this, you still won't get Sand. I have already giving up on this already. Open World stuff like this never work out.

[Gardes]

Giving good gear outside of coil might be what enables more people to do coil. It's the people who are lagging behind due to difficulty that actually need gear more than the frontrunners. People will naturally try all content that is available to them, so you will see more people in coil when they unlock it. If coil participation is declining right now it would be because the people who have been farming it for months are done with it now, while people who haven't got there yet are not seeing difficulty eased enough to make it happen.

I honestly doubt that letting full tome people turn into i110s would suddenly make them clear T5 without problems. If yoshi wants more people doing coil2, he might as well just nerf twintania really really hard (twisters only doing 1000 dmg, arena wall only does 1000 damage wall and push you back in,etc) or just give people a free pass and unleash them into coil2 pugs immediately.

But he's not. He's capping the echo at 20%.

[Kiokin]

What most people want is for there to remain a small gap in gear between raiders and non-raiders. Essentially setting them apart from others. I think it would be nice (though not really possible) to just look at a character and without ever grouping with them know exactly what their skill level is.

The fact they're wearing High Allagan gear isn't enough of a difference?

[blowfin]

The fact they're wearing High Allagan gear isn't enough of a difference?

No, a difference in numbers is needed for a true comparison of the size of your schwartz!

[Empressia]

Apparently OP doesn't know the meaning of BiS, vanity and finishing storyline!

[Exstal]

Apparently OP doesn't know the meaning of BiS, vanity and finishing storyline!

Definitely for the story.

[Elven]

I do not see a decline in numbers for raiding in coil since bugger all people could raid in there anyway unless you had an elite FC/Static group.

[Dark-Saviour]

Honestly, anything that shifts the development focus from the "Raids/Instances = Endgame = POINT OF THE GAME!" mentality is welcome. There are more than enough MMOs that shove that down your throat out there, and not nearly enough that try to move away from it.

And I still say that if someone stops raiding for this reason, they probably didn't enjoy that style of content all that much in the first place. Not preying on people's compulsions to make people slog through something they're really not interested in to force content to be relevant is a good thing.

Of course, the argument could be made that the same thing was done with hunts, but eh... Have Coil and CT throw them at you as well now and at least there'll be options.

[Rosekitten]

thus why you should have a raid group of some sort. Hunts may be a way to get sands but as far as the general population on the server I am on.. most people can't even get to the hunt marks to kill them for credit. People pulling early and being on a high population server. ^^;

Plus I know my FC personally still wants to clear the content, we have a few min-maxers in our group.. plus I dunno about you.. but the Coil gear from turns 6-9 is pretty sexy. Not to mention the weapons are still best in slot..