Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[blowfin]

Why would causal players skip oils/tombs? If they had waiting until 2.4 to release oils/sands into the hunt things would have worked out and here is why:
1) Hardcore/Raiders would be attempting the TCoB to get the newest tier of raid gear.
2) Casual Players would be attempting to get SCoB gear and upgrade their old ilvl100 gear to ilvl110.

Huh? i110 will be obsoleted in 2.4 by a new tier of tome gear and a new tier of Coil gear, probably i120 and i130 respectively. The same thing that happened with 2.2 where i90 got obsoleted by i100 and i110. I don't know about you, but I don't make a point of farming up outdated gear when I have a better option. 2.4 is way, way too late to open up Sands etc.

If they hadn't released oils/sands this patch then sure..hardcore raiders would not see any upgrades in gear but casual players would STILL be working to get their full ilvl100 set.

Having never really set foot in Second Coil I have a week or two of work to be full i100 in 2 jobs. What would I do after that for the next 3 months? People with one main will have comfortably hit i100 by now if they're been farming Soldiery since 2.2 got released. What would you expect them to do, quit until 2.4?

[ispano]

Huh? i110 will be obsoleted in 2.4 by a new tier of tome gear and a new tier of Coil gear, probably i120 and i130 respectively. The same thing that happened with 2.2 where i90 got obsoleted by i100 and i110. I don't know about you, but I don't make a point of farming up outdated gear when I have a better option. 2.4 is way, way too late to open up Sands etc.

Except you're wrong. Yes new gear from new Tomes and Coil will be released, but how soon do you HONESTLY think people will have full or near full sets? It's going to be a while. Old patch gear will still be relevant til then.

[blowfin]

Except you're wrong. Yes new gear from new Tomes and Coil will be released, but how soon do you HONESTLY think people will have full or near full sets? It's going to be a while. Old patch gear will still be relevant til then.

Yeah right, but given the option are you going to farm i110 or i120 gear?

[ispano]

Yeah right, but given the option are you going to farm i110 or i120 gear?

But you CAN'T farm 110 after you cap that first week or do your coil attempts. You're STUCK. So yes, people will. Plenty of people went and farmed for Myth/Allagan when Second Coil came out, to complement the MAYBE 1 piece they got that first week or two.

[wicked-one]

I couldn´t care less if people don´t raid.

I don´t raid for the Gear, I am Raiding to achieve a kill on a challenging boss.

Also, just buy strategy stuff and upgrade it via hunt is not the way to BiS, as BiS will always be a mixture of High-Allagan and Strategy stuff...

People with High-Allagan Stuff, especially from T8+T9 will see more respect for their skill from me than people with only upgraded Strategy Stuff...

[Brainberry]

If you havent cleared SCoB by now then you're way behind, but you should do so anyways so you can be ready for the next turns.

Theres still the HA weap and BiS pieces in SCoB so theres still a reason to run it if you dont already have it.

Its the cycle of FF14, once new turns are released the same people who waited for hunts to gear will be walled for a good amount of time.

Theres also savage coil which gives you a title and thats more than enough of a incentive to run it since it means you're capable of beating any challenge.

[Grizzlebeard]

If you havent cleared SCoB by now then you're way behind, but you should do so anyways so you can be ready for the next turns.

I believe you'll find the majority of the playerbase hasn't cleared the SCoB so making blanket statements like that comes across as an uneducated overgeneralisation.

[Fue]

I believe you'll find the majority of the playerbase hasn't cleared the SCoB so making blanket statements like that comes across as an uneducated overgeneralisation.

Well i think what he meant with that is that the next step of coil isnt far away.
This patch is supposed to be a catch up patch.

[Rufalus]

Giving good gear outside of coil might be what enables more people to do coil. It's the people who are lagging behind due to difficulty that actually need gear more than the frontrunners. People will naturally try all content that is available to them, so you will see more people in coil when they unlock it. If coil participation is declining right now it would be because the people who have been farming it for months are done with it now, while people who haven't got there yet are not seeing difficulty eased enough to make it happen.

[zPanda]

If you havent cleared SCoB by now then you're way behind, but you should do so anyways so you can be ready for the next turns.

Theres still the HA weap and BiS pieces in SCoB so theres still a reason to run it if you dont already have it.

Its the cycle of FF14, once new turns are released the same people who waited for hunts to gear will be walled for a good amount of time.

Theres also savage coil which gives you a title and thats more than enough of a incentive to run it since it means you're capable of beating any challenge.

Dumb elitist statement lol . I'd bet anything the %age of the player base to have cleared t9 has to be under 1% still. In fact, I'm sure less than 10% of the player base had even cleared T5 by the time echo became introduced to the original Coil. I bet even right now, less than half of the total server population has cleared T5. These statements like "way behind" make me lol - "way behind" for what? Is there a final exam coming up for people they need to pass T9 or their accounts get cancelled lol ? Pretty sure people not interested in Coil will be able to progress in the main storyline too. Pretty certain echo will eventually be introduced to SCoB as well when the next set of Coil-related content is introduced. I guess you could say the casuals are "way behind" the hardcore raiders, but I don't think they really care - hence the term "casual" lol.