Solo Hunt Rewards (S Rank)

[Cyrus-Wallace]

A and S ranks are meant for parties, by design.

Based on the latest changes, even Bs are now meant for a light party.

Pretty much this. It's not really hard to invite everybody asking for a party when an S mark pop's. Really. Also, it's not really hard to join a party for them. I don't know what's the excuse there. They're almost server events, if you want to do it alone, it's pretty much against its design. You with other people, as a GROUP, contribute to the final reward. I had full parties getting 30 out of 50 seals if their contribution is not enough.

[Damie]

It isn't just S-Ranks now, its A Ranks as well, even at off peak times. I'm on PC also. Very frustrating to not be able to participate in content that has by far the best reward potential. They have ignored this issue since Odin.

I just cannot wrap my head around what SE is doing here. They went out of their way to not include Sands in CT2 and now the people that can somehow do this content are close to getting all the sands and oils they need. It just undermines other PvE content. The damage to the game has already been done.

[Riepah]

I think the contribution system is pretty silly.

If 8 solo bards pull 300 DPS each for 1 minute, they'll get less contribution per head than if 8 bards in a group pull 300 DPS each for 1 minute. What gives?

[Skyl1n3]

Pretty much this. It's not really hard to invite everybody asking for a party when an S mark pop's. Really. Also, it's not really hard to join a party for them. I don't know what's the excuse there.

You knows there's literally pages of people shout'ing for invites so the chances of actually getting enough people invited and forming a full group before they're already in another party are slim, especially when it's in the heat of things and someone only literally just pulled and some people are still making their way there.

Either way the patch notes said they'd "eased" the contribution points threshold for each Elite mark which determines the reward, so explain how I got exactly the same reward from a <40% HP S Rank in Coerthas pre-hotfix, than I did from the 95-100% S Rank in Northern Thanalan post-hotfix?

[NoctisUmbra]

The only explanation I can think of that makes sense is that your contribution in either case was abysmally low, but you got the minimum threshold of participation in and therefore got the minimum reward. Furthermore, by being in a party, your party members' contributions are being compounded onto yours and therefore you achieve greater rewards more readily.

They probably eased it, yes. However, still not enough for you to participate outside of how they designed them to be fought.

[Zumi]

If you see an S rank up you should shout for a party and someone will invite you then you will get full credit 50 seals most likly. Do not solo hunt mobs if you want more credit.

The actions of the party count toward your individual participation so there is no reason not to be in a party at hunt mobs. Its is not hard to shout "invite" when an A or S mob is up most likly someone with party space will invite you because they want a better chance at full credit as well.

[Giantbane]

If you see an S rank up you should shout for a party and someone will invite you then you will get full credit 50 seals most likly. Do not solo hunt mobs if you want more credit.

You can also check PF or start your own party in PF and shout for others to join it.

[Welsper59]

I think the contribution system is pretty silly.

If 8 solo bards pull 300 DPS each for 1 minute, they'll get less contribution per head than if 8 bards in a group pull 300 DPS each for 1 minute. What gives?

It's a tally system that also helps promote certain roles. Healing and tanking obviously get the short end of the stick when it comes to DPS output. In a group setting, their output is generally not as noticeable as that of DPS. For example, in a proper battle situation, healers won't be spamming damage/heals because they need to manage their MP. Obviously, the system won't recognize their output in registering their contribution because of this, which is why the combination effect is there in a group setting (and explains why the 8 bards in a group have an easier time at max reward).

Be it intentional or not, it also has a small side effect of trying to get players to group up more... which isn't a bad thing in an MMORPG...

[Kuraran]

Would be nice if the rewarding System would be something along the lines of when you joined in on the fray in combination with the damage/healing done or enmity generated rather than just the contribution you had when killing the mob or completing a fate with your damage/healing done or enmity generated throughout the encounter.

So something like this would be really nice:

If you are there from the beginning and meet a pretty low threshold in terms of damage done, healing done or enmity generated, you should be rewarded with full credit in terms of contribution.
If you join somewhere midst of a battle, you still have to meet at least that already pretty low threshold to get the 60% contribution rewards and a higher threshold to obtain full credit.
If you join when the fray is almost over (which is probably very unlikely to happen in most cases), you get that 10% contribution reward even if you hit the mobs only once and have to meet pretty high thresholds to get the 60% or 100% rewards~

Mya, won't happen but would be nice to have, since I don't get why people that were there from the beginning but are not in a group, should be at a disadvantage even if they are doing the same or even more DPS/HPS/enmity generation than others~

[Sarlazzar]

A few days ago I killed the S Rank in Coerthas and admittedly I didn't get there until it was about 40-45% dead so I wasn't expecting the full rewards, so it dies and I get 5 Allied Seals, 20 Myth and 0 Soldiery (I was capped) and I was fine with that result as it was also going in and out of view from the volume of players (On PC btw... this shouldn't be happening still.)

So, I just got done downing the S Rank in Northern Thanalan (Minhocao) and even after wailing on him for the entire duration of his life.... what did I get for it?

5 Allied Seals, 20 Myth, 5 Soldiery...

What? How? Why?

I'd have gotten far more by killing an A Rank from 50% onwards! Heck I'd have gotten more Myth from killing a damn B Rank from 50% onwards!

So why in the hell do S Ranks refuse to give a decent reward despite full participation?!

SE want to see us in groups to chase the mobs they created, they hate solo players