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  1. #81
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    Ebon Duskfall
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    You really love showing off don't you? I bet you're going to come up with some old game that only you have played and we don't understand.

    You still didn't answer my question, instead you throw some pointless internet meme at me.
    He is right though, the fights in this game are terribly easy with the exception of t5 pre-nerf. Even brutal coil was being cleared the 1st week of it's release. This game's raiding scene in a joke in contrast to any other AAA out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    Then good sir/madam when would you suggest non-raiders are allowed to have any sense of progression for their characters? Once every six months? One a year? Once an expansion?

    Who provided funding for you to have the unique, rare, valuable and exclusionary experiences you have had so far in second coil for the last three months? Was it just your static? Your whole FC? Perhaps only the raiding community? No, it was the entire player base that has been funding the game and thus, three months after the exclusionary content of second coil they are gearing up and can try tackling it with higher gear if they weren't confident enough before.
    There is progression for the non-raiding crowd. Raiders progressed from ilvl 90 to ilvl 110 and non raiders progressed from ilvl 90 to ilvl 100.

    Raiders get new raids every six months.

    Non-raiders get new CT style raids every six months.

    When the next raid patch comes out, non- raiders will progress to ilvl120 most likely and raiders will progress to ilvl130.
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 07-17-2014 at 06:17 AM.

  2. #82
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Did you not play 2.0? It is the exact same thing. People still raided when the allagan weapons were still i90 and not i95. I do not see why people are crying over this. The odd number patches (2.1 and 2.3) seemed to be aimed at gearing people up in preparation for the next even number patch (2.2 and 2.4).
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  3. #83
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Did you not play 2.0? It is the exact same thing. Some People still raided when the allagan weapons were still i90 and not i95. I do not see why people are crying over this. The odd number patches (2.1 and 2.3) seemed to be aimed at gearing people up in preparation for the next even number patch (2.2 and 2.4).
    Fixed for accuracy.
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  4. #84
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    Worm's Avatar
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    He is right though, the fights in this game are terribly easy with the exception of t5 pre-nerf. Even brutal coil was being cleared the 1st week of it's release. This game's raiding scene in a joke in contrast to any other AAA out there.
    Can't you check your ego for a second to help your arguments? I mean, whatever the game doesn't take 100+ wipes to down a boss, what a loss. Though if you're going to pooh pooh about how easy the content is then who cares if the rewards are trivialized?
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  5. #85
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I recognize that other people don't have time to raid and they don't deserve to have terrible gear forever.
    Yep ilvl 100... 1 step below raid gear is terrible gear to run those ilvl 60 dungeons. I see your point
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  6. #86
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    Tiggy, your response has earned you a proposal once the marriage system comes out.
    This made my day. :P
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  7. #87
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    Murah Jhida
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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    He is right though, the fights in this game are terribly easy with the exception of t5 pre-nerf. Even brutal coil was being cleared the 1st week of it's release. This game's raiding scene in a joke in contrast to any other AAA out there.
    By any other you mean what, WoW? I haven't seen a single sustainable AAA raiding-endgame format MMO in like, years other than that. They're all terribly imbalanced F2P catastrophes, corpses littering the industry, or like...Wildstar, I guess.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
    Can't you check your ego for a second to help your arguments? I mean, whatever the game doesn't take 100+ wipes to down a boss, what a loss. Though if you're going to pooh pooh about how easy the content is then who cares if the rewards are trivialized?
    You can't say in good faith that the difficulty of the raids in this game hold up against the difficulty of raids in other games. They just don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Did you not play 2.0? It is the exact same thing. People still raided when the allagan weapons were still i90 and not i95. I do not see why people are crying over this. The odd number patches (2.1 and 2.3) seemed to be aimed at gearing people up in preparation for the next even number patch (2.2 and 2.4).
    It has been stated several times that in 2.0 there was a lack of interest in raiding because of myth gear. That was the reason SE buffed the ilvl of the allagan weapons, because the BCoB had no other incentives other than BiS and Vanity at the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Yep ilvl 100... 1 step below raid gear is terrible gear to run those ilvl 60 dungeons. I see your point
    IKR? I guess maybe that 3 extra intellect upgrade from the ilvl100 choker to the ilvl 110 choker was just too much for raiders to have!
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 07-17-2014 at 06:25 AM.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    t's humant nature to desire, covet, and want things that are rare, valuable, and exclusionary by nature. Get over it, human nature is not going to change.
    did you just answer yourself? you can desire and covet but other people can not desire and covet? other people should get over human nature not changing but you can't get over human nature not changing? what?
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    Daenerys Sedai
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    Sargatanas
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