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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Actually, the OP is right, it will cause people to start doing coil less, just like Myth gear did to First Coil.
    Not "will". "already has". Know plenty of people who lost motivation to raid soon as they announced they were once again throwing raid gear into solo content. No reason to spend hours progressing to get alt loot because you already got raid loot from doing hunts for a week.

    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    As much as I care about raiding too, I think this game is set on shooting itself in the foot when it comes to developing a great end game for high end gamers. I am sure I am not the only one to notice that less and less people are doing dungeon guides and streams of FF14.
    Casuals cry more. Thus they win and raid loot becomes group loot. Only raid loot in the game is a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Not "will". "already has". Know plenty of people who lost motivation to raid soon as they announced they were once again throwing raid gear into solo content. No reason to spend hours progressing to get alt loot because you already got raid loot from doing hunts for a week.
    And this is the problem with present-day raiding. It's about being a special snowflake, not overcoming the challenges the game provides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    And this is the problem with present-day raiding. It's about being a special snowflake, not overcoming the challenges the game provides.

    Your kidding yourself if you think this was ever the case.

    1999 we raided X and Y events until when? We had the loot. Then you didn't do the events again for YEARS. Now? Sure we go run Plane of Time randomly for fun but thats YEARS later. No one raided current or last tier content and destroyed all the loot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Your kidding yourself if you think this was ever the case.

    1999 we raided X and Y events until when? We had the loot. Then you didn't do the events again for YEARS. Now? Sure we go run Plane of Time randomly for fun but thats YEARS later. No one raided current or last tier content and destroyed all the loot.
    And you're kidding yourself if you think people solely raid for gear. People raid for several reasons. To imply that raiding ends because an "easier" alternative exists to equivalent gear is incorrect because I still see Coil 1 learning parties.
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