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  1. #761
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    I remember reading somewhere that Determination is better on lower potency skills than higher. Surely if that is true, wouldn't the changes mean determination's stat weighting be reduced?
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    DET is 33% boost to INT working 24/7 while crit is hard capped at 25% or 621 crit rating. problem is u can get 617 crit rating with current BLM gears but that comes with a price of 405 acc. Get it? No?

    DET is working optimally 24/7 RNG FREE while CRIT isn't atm and is RNG DEPENDANT too much
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  3. #763
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    DET is 33% boost to INT working 24/7 while crit is hard capped at 25% or 621 crit rating. problem is u can get 617 crit rating with current BLM gears but that comes with a price of 405 acc. Get it? No?

    DET is working optimally 24/7 RNG FREE while CRIT isn't atm and is RNG DEPENDANT too much
    I'd much rather have 600 spellspeed and keep doing 400 DPS thanks.
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  4. #764
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    DET is 33% boost to INT working 24/7 while crit is hard capped at 25% or 621 crit rating. problem is u can get 617 crit rating with current BLM gears but that comes with a price of 405 acc. Get it? No?

    DET is working optimally 24/7 RNG FREE while CRIT isn't atm and is RNG DEPENDANT too much
    How do you know Crit is hard capped when there's not enough gear in the game to test past what your "hard cap" is?
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  6. #765
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    Savage Turn 6: 460 accuracy

    243 Hits, 4 Miss
    Thunder 2, Fire 3, Fire x2.

    Seems to be Turn 9 accuracy, but not 100% sure as of yet

    For BLM/Caster specific changes in the Turn, not entirely sure, but I never recalled the Hornet interrupting casts as much as he has done to me tonight.
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    Last edited by SongJoohee; 07-16-2014 at 05:07 AM.

  7. #766
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Savage Turn 6: 460 accuracy

    243 Hits, 4 Miss
    Thunder 2, Fire 3, Fire x2.

    Seems to be Turn 9 accuracy, but not 100% sure as of yet

    For BLM/Caster specific changes in the Turn, not entirely sure, but I never recalled the Hornet interrupting casts as much as he has done to me tonight.
    Trying to aetherial manipulate from briars will cause a "miss"
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  8. #767
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    Trying to aetherial manipulate from briars will cause a "miss"
    Same happens in T6 normal
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  9. #768
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Same happens in T6 normal
    meh i read it out of context, didnt realize you were talking about savage
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  10. #769
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    Natalya Deschanel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    in no instance is a i100 piece better than an i110.
    I disagree - depending on the stats you can have an item that is 10 ilvls lower but is better.

    Here's an example:
    Cashmere Breeches (melded for accuracy/speed I90)
    29 Int, 33 Acc, 24 Det, 33 Spellspeed, 29 Vit

    vs
    Weathered Evenstar Tights (I100)
    34 Int, 26 Accuracy, 27 Det, 35 Vit

    You would gain 7 Accuracy & 33 speed in exchange for 5 Int and 3 Det

    33 Spellspeed is worth more than 5 Int - even at a horrendous ratio of say something like 4 Speed = 1 Int you'd get a theoretical Int value of 8.25 Int for 33 speed. The real speed values are better and speed points increase in value the more you have.

    The amount and types of secondary stat can make a difference. Just waiting on Puro's updated stat weights and then we can figure out some of the new gear.
    I think a fully dps melded crafted diamond ring (I90) can even surpass one of the I110 rings.
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  11. #770
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasuallySerious View Post
    I think a fully dps melded crafted diamond ring (I90) can even surpass one of the I110 rings.
    They do. The Crafted Earrings pre T9 are also really good.
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